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sc2zerker
Joined: 21.12.2012

So it's this stuff, that really makes a guy crazy.

I think I played it right?

As soon as the turn hits Ace, I feel my kings become useless...


villain
H: 103 VP: 60 PFR 14 3B:11

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($5.94) 119bb
UTG+1 electrobox ($5) 100bb
CO Ivan'Ibarra ($7.02) 140bb
BTN docent3366 ($5.36) 107bb
SB ashba189 ($16.77) 335bb
BB coco04alin ($5.07) 101bb

Pre-Flop: (0.07, 6 players) Hero is UTG K♣: K♥:
Hero raises to $0.15, electrobox calls $0.15, 2 folds, ashba189 raises to $0.65, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.63, electrobox folds, ashba189 calls $0.98
Flop: 3♦: Q♣: 7♠: ($3.46, 2 players)

ashba189 checks, Hero bets $1.35, ashba189 calls $1.35

Turn: A♦: ($6.16, 2)
ashba189 bets $5.90, Hero folds
Final Pot: $12.06

ashba189 wins $11.80 (net +$2.92)

Hero lost $2.98
electrobox lost $0.15


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xiaohetao
Joined: 29.05.2018

I believe you were already pot committed ott. Assuming villain was an unknown player, I would call ott even though Ad was the worst card in the deck.

Flop bet can be a little larger, like 1/2 pot.


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juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009

I don't think we are pot comitted after he almost pot donks the turn. I mean this is at least an AK. What do you put him on?


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xiaohetao
Joined: 29.05.2018

Hero already invested more than 1/2 of his stack with $2.96 left behind. If villain did have AK, couldn't he still push it easily on the river? Could it be screwed Qx, JJ, TT, or other air? I am not sure too, but I am probably going to make a curious hero call with 3:1 odds.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

We can fold our KK on turn and do not worrie too much. This happens.


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wintheflop777
Joined: 02.06.2018

I completely agree, you should be able to fold this hand without worrying about it too much.

Yet, it's important to follow the player if possible and make sure that he doesn't do these moves too often.
If so, you can call him on such turn more often with wider ranges.

In most cases, I would think that he holds at least AK at this spot.


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DannyHorsley
Joined: 03.12.2014

Good sizing preflop with your 4bet.

Originally posted by xiaohetao
Flop bet can be a little larger, like 1/2 pot.

I also think flop bet could have been larger though I’d say more than 1/3 pot. We’re still getting value from most Qx combinations, overcards and potentially even a Broadway hand with backdoor draws (e.g. KJ) if our opponent is a bit looser. I’d personally be making a bet here between 2/3 and full pot.

Villain knows we have a monster hand here and bets very large OTT. I don’t think he’s doing this to get us off the hand, I think he wants our money. This card smashes his range (AK, AQ, AJ, KQs) he could also have QQ but I think he would be checkraising OTF.

I personally think that you’re fine to fold KK here.


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sc2zerker
Joined: 21.12.2012

Thanks for the responses, it sounds like i played it right...

after this hand villain continued his onslaught of aggression and i adjusted accordingly... before this hand I have little reads on villain, so I played it safe and folded which sounds like the right option.

I do agree the flop bet was a bit small, 2/3 for value would've been better but my plan was bet 1/2 pot if call, all in on turn but as you can see that shit went sideways for me.


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DannyHorsley
Joined: 03.12.2014

Originally posted by sc2zerker
I do agree the flop bet was a bit small, 2/3 for value would've been better but my plan was bet 1/2 pot if call, all in on turn but as you can see that shit went sideways for me.

It's good that you are planning ahead.


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