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juhiimi
juhiimi
Joined: 03.03.2009
Posts: 138
14.06.2018, 17:20

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $5.94 (118.8 bb)
BB: $5 (100 bb) 23/19 3bet:16 (BB), AF:0,9
UTG: $6.26 (125.2 bb)
MP: $5 (100 bb)
CO: $5.17 (103.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $6.86 (137.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q♥: J♥:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, SB folds, BB raises to $0.41, Hero calls $0.29

Flop: ($0.84) J♣: Q♠: 8♠: (2 players)
BB bets $0.41, Hero raises to $1.20, BB calls $0.79

Turn: ($3.24) T♠: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($3.24) 7♠: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results:

Spoiler

$3.24 pot ($0.13 rake)
Final Board: J♣: Q♠: 8♠: T♠: 7♠:
BB showed J♠: A♦: and won $3.11 ($1.50 net)
Hero mucked Q♥: J♥: and lost (-$1.61 net)

I really feel i should have bet the turn, because this reasonable player will more then sure raise me with a completed draw and i can still get value from hands like QTs, AJ, KJ,KQ(mb with fd) JTs and OTR after he check twice mb i can bet there too, im not selling much but he can fold a straight in some cases i guess.


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VorpalF2F
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Joined: 02.09.2010
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14.06.2018, 17:35

Hi juhiimi,
If you did bet the turn, how big would you make it?

You will need to make it big enough to give poor odds to call assuming he is on a straight or flush draw.
You also need to consider that he may already have a made hand, in which case you have 6 outs to a full house.

Now that I've seen the spoiler, I can't really imagine him folding that hand OTT unless the bet is rather large.

I'm curious to see what others think about this spot...

All the best,
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KingKlaas
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Joined: 13.12.2008
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14.06.2018, 21:33

I think this hand is well played:f_thumbsup:


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nitrol
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Joined: 24.07.2010
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15.06.2018, 06:39

I think that this turn card is one of the worst we can get...


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CucumbaMan
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Joined: 13.10.2017
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15.06.2018, 07:34

I'd probably play it the same way, so it looks well played to me. :f_thumbsup:


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Tonyx86
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Joined: 28.03.2018
Posts: 142
15.06.2018, 20:37

As played with the raise OTF i was hoping to see a bet OTT as well ;) to get some value out of AJ, AQ and A high FDs.

On a raise OTT or a bet OTR we would have had to muck.


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juhiimi
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Joined: 03.03.2009
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16.06.2018, 11:15

Yeah i think bet the turn is better then check. Its a very ugly card, but there are also some worst hands that can call, and if i get raised there i know where i am.


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MLima1984
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Joined: 19.05.2015
Posts: 306
16.06.2018, 16:54

Is shooting the dealer an option??
I think i would probably cbet OTT and if i didnt raise it there i would probably do it OTR, since the villain checked to me twice.
BTW I would fold if reraised and check OTR if the villain called my cbet OTT


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VorpalF2F
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16.06.2018, 18:20

Originally posted by MLima1984
Is shooting the dealer an option??

Hi, MLima1984,
I don't think that this is +EV :coolface:

VS


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nitrol
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17.06.2018, 09:39

There will be plenty of shoot outs ... :)


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