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three of kind 4 straight board, river hero call or fold?

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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

River i had to cbet about half pot or 2/3 pot? Villain had got only 100 hands, 34/5, wtsd 12, wonsd 50. I think now horrible move for me the check the river. But can be any bloff river overbet really rarely used bloff. Maybe two pairs, or 55, 33, 88. But he had not 3bet so can be JJ, QQ.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players

SB: $5 (100 bb)
BB: $6.89 (137.8 bb)
UTG+2: $8.15 (163 bb)
MP1: $4.95 (99 bb)
Hero (MP2): $5.67 (113.4 bb)
MP3: $4.55 (91 bb)
CO: $5.20 (104 bb)
BTN: $5.25 (105 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9♠ 9♣
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.15, SB calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: ($0.50) J♥ 9♥ 5♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.32, BTN calls $0.32, SB folds

Turn: ($1.14) Q♦ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.95, BTN calls $0.95

River: ($3.04) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.25,

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Hero folds

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Results: $3.04 pot ($0.13 rake)
Final Board: J♥ 9♥ 5♠ Q♦ 8♦
Hero mucked 9♠ 9♣ and lost (-$1.42 net)
BTN mucked and won $2.91 ($1.49 net)


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Densyosh
Joined: 30.10.2009

Sick spot.. I don't like the flop sizing, 0.40/0.45 is better in 3way I think but I realy like to overbet here, something like 0.75..
Now he has lot of JT/T9 or Thxh so it's a fold for me..

E/ he never has 88 and 55 would probably raise this drawy flop IP.. no DP with SD value here, so you only beat a bust FD..


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Yes i had to cbet bigger, i agree. But what do you suggest if i would had AJ, KJ or over pairs, same cbet about overbet post flop mwp?


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TyCobb
Joined: 30.03.2006

I honestly think there is no superior river play. I think c/c is viable, i think c/f is viable and i think b/f is ok too.

I think i tend the most to c/c. V. is a little fishy and FD will be a good part of his range.

Given the Sizing, i think you can fold.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Why do we want to bet bigger OTF? Just because we are multiway?
Usually people bet bigger mw because if they are bluffing they think the bluff has to go through multiple villains and when they have a value hand they think there are more people to call their value bet. In reality it doesn't quite work like that because people tend to respect bets multiway a lot more and play a lot tighter vs those. They fold a lot more. Now that we have a good hand we actually want to encourage some more calls from weaker hands. Making a huge overbet 4way would be sub-optimal in my opinion.


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Flop maybe you right but micro limit..so if i raise over bet almost never folded the draws villains. Turn i had to cbet potbet or overbet. But of course always river saves them...


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