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katsura15967
Joined: 03.10.2018

here's the thing I am so bad at playing AA AK hands and it makes me lose a lot,hope you guys help me out here, and i have a question here, should I leave villain hands? or not .
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First hand I think i am AA with a straight draw, so i can value bet as much as i can , the turn is 3 ,but i am afraid of that if the river turns out some spade will make me lose so i over bet a lot to make him uncomfortable.
and I lose it , maybe the turn i just bet smaller and the river just check and fold if villain allin ?
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 109.5 BB
SB: 104.5 BB
BB: 305 BB
Hero (UTG): 152 BB
MP: 91 BB
CO: 137.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ah As
Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) Jh Qs Ts
Hero bets 3.5 BB, CO raises to 13 BB, Hero raises to 30 BB, CO calls 17 BB

Turn : (66.5 BB, 2 players) 3c
Hero bets 119.5 BB and is all-in, CO calls 105 BB and is all-in

River : (276.5 BB, 2 players) Js

Hero shows Ah As (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 79%, Flop 15%, Turn 7%)

CO wins 267 BB
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second hand
preflop should I raise 4BB because villain limped it?
and this hand's flop is kind of first hand,I have top pairs with a straight draw
plus backdoor flush ,so I bet the flop,the villain reraised to 7BB I am totally confused ,and don't know what should I do ,maybe raise him again to 20BB?
but I think if he have set or two pairs then im *ed so i call it,
the turn is 3d,I might get a flush at the river so I bet here again ,
but actully I dont know villain call me is a good or bad thing,am I ahead of his range? probably not!
the river is a heart,I bet here for a bluff i think, if villain is a set or top pair
villain might fold as will,and villain all in ,its 15BB to call ,I was like
* it
and call it . i was really sad when i lose it .

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 218.5 BB
SB: 443.5 BB
Hero (BB): 243.5 BB
UTG: 83.5 BB
MP: 56.5 BB
CO: 163.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Ad Kd
fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 2 BB

Flop : (6.5 BB, 2 players) Qd Kh Th
Hero bets 3.5 BB, MP raises to 7 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB

Turn : (20.5 BB, 2 players) 3d
Hero bets 10.5 BB, MP calls 10.5 BB

River : (41.5 BB, 2 players) 9h
Hero bets 21 BB, MP raises to 36 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 15 BB

Hero shows Ad Kd (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 65%, Flop 50%, Turn 70%)

MP wins 109.5 BB
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third hand
this flop i got reraise from villain , i dont know he is bluff or what and I have TPTK is good so i call it .
trun is Jh , i dont think this card will change something but i still afraid river will get villain flush so i bet it , and villain allin , and for some reason i call it.
am i over value TPTK? and should i alert myself when people reraise me flop?
but this hand its turn card make him win so i kind of tilt.
PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 116.5 BB
SB: 102.5 BB
BB: 104 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 113.5 BB
Hero (CO): 112 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has As Kh
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop : (8 BB, 3 players) 2c Ks 5h
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BTN raises to 10 BB, BB calls 10 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn : (38 BB, 3 players) Jh
BB checks, Hero bets 19 BB, BTN raises to 104 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 80.5 BB and is all-in

River : (237 BB, 2 players) 7c

Hero shows As Kh (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 75%, Flop 87%, Turn 7%)

BTN wins 228.5 BB

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fourth hand
turn is 3d i value bet half pot and villain reraise it , i think im strong w/kk
but i think villain may have set waiting for me after i lose it ,
should i afraid villain allin when i have strong over pairs?
how do i know if villain is bluff , so i call this allin boom! burn money again.

BTN: 96.5 BB
SB: 108 BB
BB: 106.5 BB
Hero (UTG): 100 BB (VPIP: 20, PFR: 18, 3Bet Preflop: 10, Hands:411 )
MP: 163 BB
CO: 108 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Kd Kh
Hero raises to 2.5 BB, MP calls 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop : (9 BB, 3 players) 6s 2h 8s
Hero bets 4.5 BB, fold, CO calls 4.5 BB

Turn : (18 BB, 2 players) 3d
Hero bets 9 BB, CO raises to 18 BB, Hero raises to 53 BB, CO raises to 101 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 40 BB and is all-in

River : (204 BB, 2 players) 6c

Hero shows Kd Kh (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
(Pre 78%, Flop 64%, Turn 0%)

CO shows 4h 5h (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 22%, Flop 36%, Turn 100%)

CO wins 197 BB
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thanks to all guys spent time to watch me make mistakes ,
I cant win nl2 makes me so depressed and I have to be stronger,
I am a new player and try to learn poker , feel free to blame me as well .


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Man, post each hand in different thread! This way everyone will have a good look at the hand and can give you more detailed answer.
1. In this hand you are a bit deep, so postflop you should be careful when people get active. What is the purpose of your raise on flop?
2. Why do you just call vs the small stack on flop? and why do you raise so small preflop?
3. Why do you bet turn in this hand? Villain raises vs 2 on flop!
4. Fold with less than top 2p.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Hey katsura15967.

I would also suggest posting the hands in separate threads, if the hands are not very very similar. Now if someone doesn't have time to review all 3 hands, he probably won't review none of them. So you might get less comments.
You could also run the hands through a converter. Or then you might be able to copy those directly to pokerstrategy format in your tracking software. Then it could convert those cards to pictures so it would be a bit easier to read. I show how that is done in one of my videos: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/popout/44669/#t=273


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MyFloXyBabY
Joined: 15.02.2010

Hadn't the courage to read all this not converted, but the begining already makes me tick : you complain about playing AA postflop on scary boards but you are opening only 2,5x at NL2...


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katsura15967
Joined: 03.10.2018

Originally posted by nitrol

1. In this hand you are a bit deep, so postflop you should be careful when people get active. What is the purpose of your raise on flop?
2. Why do you just call vs the small stack on flop? and why do you raise so small preflop?
3. Why do you bet turn in this hand? Villain raises vs 2 on flop!
4. Fold with less than top 2p.

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1.I was afraid that i post so many threads will anoying people , but now I knew it I will try post one hand for one thread,
and first hand, if I check the flop , isn't it make villain check and free to see next card? ,
I think I bet on flop because of I wanna get some value and make villain hard to call if he has some draw ,
ahh, so curious why , cant find the answer by myself.
2.hmm, here is a story,the first hand villain has 8s9s, so he had straight on flop.
the flop is same act,I bet and villain reraise me,but the first hand I reraise him again , and turn out he is straight on flop
so the second hand I dont reraise him because I think just maybe villain have something or not .
makes me want to see next card so I just called.
and the preflop raise size, I see some streamer do it like open 2.5x,I think its no big deal.
same,I don't know what is the problem makes me feel depressed.
3.the reason why I bet this turn is I can get rid of those who are flush draw,and get value from something like ThQh ThKh or Ahxh
so from now on if there are two or more people on the table,should I just check and see villain gonna do ?
4.ok got it, but do some people bluff like this ? how to make me realize villain bluff gonna look like?
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Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
Hadn't the courage to read all this not converted, but the begining already makes me tick : you complain about playing AA postflop on scary boards but you are opening only 2,5x at NL2...

I am so sorry I make this thread look like a complaining ,and sorry again this make you feel tick,
my English is bad maybe can't fully express what I think in my mind.
1.preflop open size I dont know what is good or bad,I watched some video and the open is small just like my open size,
and some video is bigger then my size,I dont know how to choose about it.

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Thanks a lot for three of you guys take a look of my thread,
it helps me find the problems and makes me to think about it ,
and now I think the problem that I am bad at poker still no change but I will try to learn it !
Thanks la55i ! ,I watched the video, I will post like this from now on .


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

1. You do not try to answer what do you want to achieve with the flop re-raise... Give it a try. You should take into account that your hand is strong preflop but may not be so strong postflop.
2. Do you make the difference for playing deepstack and playing vs a half-stack?
3. A flush draw will not fold vs your turn bet.... What will you do if villain raises?
4. You cannot know if villain is bluffing but most of the time the turn raise is for value.


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katsura15967
Joined: 03.10.2018

Originally posted by nitrol
1. You do not try to answer what do you want to achieve with the flop re-raise... Give it a try. You should take into account that your hand is strong preflop but may not be so strong postflop.
2. Do you make the difference for playing deepstack and playing vs a half-stack?
3. A flush draw will not fold vs your turn bet.... What will you do if villain raises?
4. You cannot know if villain is bluffing but most of the time the turn raise is for value.

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First,yes,I consider my hand or my range is not that strong on the flop right now,
I kind of want to know if two pairs like QJ,TJ,QT on the flop or a set is strong enough on this board?
My mistakes are:
1.overvalue with overpairs on this borad?
2.I don't thinking villain 's ranges strength?
3.Betting size?

Second,Actually,I dont...and what should I learn about deep stack vs half-stack or short stack?

Third.I have some questions here,
1.How do I make a flush draw fold on the other situation?
2.If villain called turn, and the river is a 7c what should I do ?
3.If villain called turn, and the river is a heart should I just check and fold to villain bet?
4.If villain raises me I just give up TPTK from now on.

Fourth,Got it,and this hand,not even have to a straight,a set will beat me as will.
1.I wondering what should I do if villain have a set if I have overpairs?
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Again, thank for your time to teach me and give me some idea.
lead me to thinking about my mistakes.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

First,
1. Yes, I think you overvalue overpair and have to take into account that when you face aggression you should stop and think. In fact you should have a plan for the hand and when you face a raise, you should stick to your plan.
2. You should try to put villain on a range. What hands he is raising?
3. Betting size you can fix, imo.

Second, There is a big difference when playing vs deep stack or shortstack villain. You should not play for stacks with a TP hand when deep stack. But you can do so vs shortstacker.
On your questions:
1. Maybe if you ship it... :) In fact I think you do not want flush draws to fold but to pay you off!!! Do you see the difference?
If you are talking about the third hand, where villain is raising vs 2 , you should play the hand passive and try to see showdown as cheap as possible.
2, 3 - you should not bet imo...

Forth, I do not get your question.


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