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3 bet pot oop. Hit TP on river. I fold

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Hopell
Joined: 03.10.2018

HI. I am not sure how to post the hand so it is easier to read. This pist does not have pot size stats. I am looking into how to fix that.

I am curious how others would play the river. I barreled flop and turn with decent equity. I think the flop and turn are OK. It is the river I am wondering about. I know the pot sizes are not here so basically the river bet villain made was a half stack bet.(50bbs)

I think he had AQ TT AT AJ

Thanks

** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ** (Party)
$5.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, October 03, 02:46:39 ET 2018
Table Supersonic 3 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 3: Player3 ( $5.01 USD ) - VPIP: 56, PFR: 56, 3B: 0, AF: 0.5, Hands: 9
Seat 5: Player5 ( $5.17 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 30, 3B: 25, AF: 0.0, Hands: 37
Seat 2: Hero ( $5.88 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 19, 3B: 6, AF: 3.4, Hands: 528
Seat 4: Player4 ( $5.00 USD ) - VPIP: 25, PFR: 25, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 8
Seat 6: Player6 ( $5.27 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 1.0, Hands: 35
Seat 1: Player1 ( $5.52 USD ) - VPIP: 33, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 3
Hero posts small blind [$0.02 USD].
Player3 posts big blind [$0.05 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ As Qs ]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Player6 raises [$0.15 USD]
Player1 folds
Hero raises [$0.43 USD]
Player3 folds
Player6 calls [$0.30 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, Tc, 6c ]
Hero bets [$0.45 USD]
Player6 calls [$0.45 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
Hero bets [$0.88 USD]
Player6 calls [$0.88 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ Ad ]
Hero checks
Player6 bets [$2.15 USD]
Hero folds
Player6 wins $5.58 USD from main pot


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greatpk
Joined: 04.05.2016

Please use one of the poker hand converters and paste the hand code in there and it will convert it into forum code which you paste in youre post.
Just google for a poker hand converter


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Hopell
Joined: 03.10.2018

Originally posted by greatpk
Please use one of the poker hand converters and paste the hand code in there and it will convert it into forum code which you paste in youre post.
Just google for a poker hand converter

Any insite in regards to the hand in question? I mentioned in my post that I was looking into posting hands histories correctly already. Maybe you missed that part of my post


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greatpk
Joined: 04.05.2016

Originally posted by Hopell

Originally posted by greatpk
Please use one of the poker hand converters and paste the hand code in there and it will convert it into forum code which you paste in youre post.
Just google for a poker hand converter

Any insite in regards to the hand in question? I mentioned in my post that I was looking into posting hands histories correctly already. Maybe you missed that part of my post

Please edit youre post in and post the form code from hand converter. that way it makes it easier for all of members to go through the hand:)


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

its ok i guess


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Hopell
Joined: 03.10.2018

oh gotcha


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Hopell
Joined: 03.10.2018

I think I figured it out. This is a lot easier in the eyes. I do not see the stats for the players.

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
UTG Player4 ($5) 100bb
UTG+1 Player5 ($5.17) 103bb
CO Player6 ($5.27) 105bb
BTN Player1 ($5.52) 110bb
SB Hero ($5.88) 118bb
BB Player3 ($5.01) 100bb

Pre-Flop: (0.07, 6 players) Hero is SB A♠: Q♠:
2 folds, Player6 raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, 1 fold, Player6 calls $0.30
Flop: 2♠: T♣: 6♣: ($0.95, 2 players)

Hero bets $0.45, Player6 calls $0.45

Turn: 8♠: ($1.85, 2)
Hero bets $0.88, Player6 calls $0.88 River: A♦: ($3.61, 2)

Hero checks, Player6 bets $2.15, Hero folds

Final Pot: $5.76

Player6 wins $7.73 (net +$3.80)

Hero collects $0.00 (net -$1.78)


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headshot2009
Joined: 01.08.2009

Easy call on river. All missed flush draws could bluff like this. In other hand what the point to make 2barrels and check/fold on river when you hit TP with good kicker. Only few combos can play like this what beats your hand is TT, 66, AT and AK but some of them you blocking. What is more, you need to win around 30% of a times you are in this spot to make money in long term. If think it is very easy to have that many bluffs when oponent only calls two times to 1/2 pot size bet on flushdraw heavy board.
If you have any notes about oponent bluffs the call on river is even more easy.


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Hopell
Joined: 03.10.2018

The reason for the second barrel was to make villain fold or hit nut flush on river.
TP against a 50bb bet seems like a loosing spot to me n nl5. I can see this as being mandatory 3 bar in Nl 100 just to balance thing. My experience in nl5 is missed flush draws do not make a 50bb bet as a bluff at nl5. If villain was indeed bluffing his missed draw then he would probably be the only 5% of the players making the bluff there. I do not see it as a easy call. I think it should be a triple bar or fold. Calling the river just seems awkward. If I was planning on calling why not just bet myself?

Thanks for the in site. What limits do you play ?


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headshot2009
Joined: 01.08.2009

Check/call on river is better than 3rd barrel, because mainly only better hands will call you when betting. Your check let all the bluffs go all in and that is the perfect sizing doing this 2/3 pot. If betting less for bluff, would it work? Even calling all in you need to win only 30% of the times.
It is only my opinion :)
I play NL10 and making shots to 25NL. Based on my experience, people like bluffing everywhere, even 5NL if you provocate them. I think that was exectly what you have done here. And on flush heavy draw if they have something strong like a set, NL5, NL2 players raise at least on turn cause they scare of flushy draw.

Just noticed that was not all in on river, anyway that does not make any difference cause your options are call or fold.


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headshot2009
Joined: 01.08.2009

Barrels on flop and river is fine, only a sizing I would change a little bit to represent an overpair or top pair making turn bet minimum of 2/3 - 3/4 pot size.

And of course if your oponent is a calling station, berreling is pointless.


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