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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Is this line OK on the flop?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
PartyPoker
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter

Stacks:
CO Player2 (3,089) 15bb
BTN Player5 (3,665) 18bb
SB Player8 (4,032) 20bb
BB Hero (2,714) 14bb

Blinds: 100/200 Ante 25

Pre-Flop: (400, 4 players) Hero is BB 6♠: 5♦:
1 fold, Player5 calls 200, Player8 calls 100, Hero checks
Flop: Q♥: 3♦: 4♥: (700, 3 players)

Player8 checks, Hero goes all-in 2,489, Player5 folds, Player8 folds

Final Pot: 3,189

Hero wins 5,678 (net +2,964)

Player8 lost 225
Player5 lost 225


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Originally posted by UPAY4DINNER
Is this line OK on the flop?

This might sound bit harsh but this is basically common fish line screaming: "Me have DRAW!"

Problem of this line is pretty obvious. You are risking 2.5k to take down 700 versus two opponents in direct bubble where chips won are less valuable than those lost. Also you dont really have such a big draw. If you had 6h5h it would make tiny bit more sense but would still be pretty absurd. Now people often say balance is not important in micros but let me ask what value hand are you playing like this? You probably dont have 33, 44 or QQ as those should be preflop shoves or small raise. Q4, Q3, 34 are totally possible but are you playing them like this? KQ or AQ are probably preflop shoves also. Weaker Qx wont make sense to value shove.

Now I might be wrong but I doubt you will ever have value hand with this line. Even if you do main problem is that its not optimal line to take. Most likely you are forcing too many weaker hands to fold. I dont mind leading with your hand as its decent for it. Its not strong enough to be nasty if you bet 300 and face raise as you can fold it. Also lot easier to balance value hands for this line. Yet its not really strong enough draw that you want to look for check-raise and check-call can be bit marginal depending of sizing.

With something like 1000 or less I would go for flop shove as you did. Way better risk:reward and not really space to do much else.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009

Thanks for the detailed response


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