I feel like missed very good spot for value OTR. What is the max EV play on the river here against unknown? Should I bet for value and fold if get raised? What sizing is the best for that play?
What is the best line in this spot overall?
Thanks a lot!
It isn't that much of a standard call pre as KQo is more supposed to bet a 3bet BU vs CO-MP-UTG. That hand isn't really that playable as a flat in fact.
The guy is taking a weird line with JJ lol but why not.
All in all I don't feel like you missed that much value, it's hard to get call by much worse here and maybe he has some J9 surprise or whatever.
I wouldn't bet myself but I think I suck at these kind of spots (moreover when I'd never have that combo myself here) so I'm not sure.
I Would 3b too pre. That being said, is this as played a standard board to float? As played i think i would bet river small. Dont really expect to get raised here too often but when it happens I get I’m behind.
Originally posted by samni
As played i think i would bet river small. Dont really expect to get raised here too often but when it happens I get I’m behind.
Agree with betting OTR. But sizings... again.
If someone can explain me why a massive overbet here wouldn't work feel free to do so.
I think a good player calls here a massive bet sometimes with JJ.
Because of what myfloxybaby said? It’s hard to get called by worse? So I would bet small to get worse hands to call.. Maybe i’m Thinking too much “2015”? You say good players call huge bets here. Can’t we assume there aren’t too many good players on NL10?
Originally posted by samni
Because of what myfloxybaby said? It’s hard to get called by worse? So I would bet small to get worse hands to call.. Maybe i’m Thinking too much “2015”? You say good players call huge bets here. Can’t we assume there aren’t too many good players on NL10?
Precisely because our line looks so fishy he'd be tempted to call.
Originally posted by MyFloXyBabY
All in all I don't feel like you missed that much value, it's hard to get call by much worse here and maybe he has some J9 surprise or whatever.
I mean I could get called by AT, KT maybe, QJ or JJ if I bet half pot OTR. Of course J9 would raise and TQ would probably do so, can not see any bluffs raising me OTR. However it is an easy fold if get raised anyway so I would not get myself into a tough spot.
Originally posted by zetozinho
Originally posted by samni
As played i think i would bet river small. Dont really expect to get raised here too often but when it happens I get I’m behind.Agree with betting OTR. But sizings... again.
If someone can explain me why a massive overbet here wouldn't work feel free to do so.
I think a good player calls here a massive bet sometimes with JJ.
I think in microstakes people does not bluff enough OTR, so overbet OTR would look as a super strong play, most of the time you will get called only from better hands here.
Why u bet OTT? I mean u asking about river value bet but u just got miracle after betting turn when villain was trapping. That being said you missed lots of value oTR
Originally posted by diabloykiss
Why u bet OTT? I mean u asking about river value bet but u just got miracle after betting turn when villain was trapping. That being said you missed lots of value oTR
Bet OTT is a bluff against all the overcards in his range apart from QJ. Maybe it is not the best board for bluff against CO open range, I am not sure. If he has a made hand like Jj, AT, JT, T9s he wont fold, but I have 6 outs to improve my hand against them. The main problem here is missed value bet OTR imo.
