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(FR) KJo - TPGK vs 3 streets of aggression

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pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

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$0.05 NL - Holdem - 6 players

BTN: 119.8 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 52.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
BB: 28.2 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: 162.4 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 10)
MP: 167.2 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
Hero (CO): 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J♥ K♠

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls 4 BB

Flop: (11.4 BB, 2 players) J♠ 9♣ 2♥
UTG bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB
Thoughts and questions:

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just hate when the postflop starts that way because I'm not sure If I'll be able to calldown.
On the other hand, it was to early to give up, specially because people go crazy in boards without an A or a K...

Turn: (33.4 BB, 2 players) 3♠
UTG bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB
Thoughts and questions:

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Still no clue about his range and no plan for the river.

River: (65.4 BB, 2 players) 8♦
UTG bets 31.2 BB, fold
Thoughts and questions:

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Call?

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UTG shows 6♥ 4♦ (High Card, Jack)

UTG wins 62.2 BB


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DarkTunnel
Joined: 14.08.2013

I think it is an okay exploitative fold here. On the river the only meaningful draw (QT) got there as well, plus the flop sets and two pairs can still valuebet.

Do not forget, if you never get bluffed you are most likely calling too much ;)


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IPtkv
Joined: 30.08.2011
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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

I hate this spots. I really do. I've seen everything in triple donk pots, but I'm never sure what to do too.
What I can definitely tell you is that overfolding is better than overcalling at NL5. (you already know I like the low-variance approach ).


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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

Hmm im probably still drunk from last weekend, but how did the whale won the hand?


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IPtkv
Joined: 30.08.2011
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MLima1984
Joined: 19.05.2015

Thanks IPtkv! Damnnnnn, that was cheecky from the fish.

If i already have a read im going to showdown, unless of course the board get reaaaaaaally slipery.

Btw even though it wasnt the case here, usually a donk bet means a pair or a draw IMO.


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Chstal
Joined: 31.07.2011

Little advice, people who donks and bets 3 streets with half pot, they dont have a strong hand. Search in your database donk bets and see their hands. I would only fold if he bets 70%+ on river. This is easy call.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

I'd never raise flop here, if he has air we want him to keep betting

RIver's close vs half pot VS utg limper
Problem is that we beat worse Kx here and he can bet them this way
QT we can expect to bet bigger


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srichards
Joined: 26.11.2012

Wow, that was an extremely difficult hand. I certainly agree with the smooth call on the Flop and Turn. With a strong kicker but not the Ace kicker, I just don't see a Raise. I hate to call 31 BB with a King kicker. It may only be 1/2 Pot bet. However, after the flop I tend to evaluate bets by the big blind amount and not the pot percentage. Thus, I am only seeing 31 BB's and that is a sizeable bet. I like Zetozinho's preference for low variance. I admit that I would probably play this hand differently each time that I face it. I do not have a strong enough confidence in calling or folding. Is it helpful to admit that this River call is so hard that I can offer no advice one way or another?


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DecMate
Joined: 25.01.2009

Agree with Lemon.
I'd personally call here as fish don't know how to value bet and never do this sort of line for value.


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