Best way to play this AAXX hand ?

I have moved your hand to our hand discussion board. There fits it better.
I would always play a >=100bb stack.
It's also smart to give your own though process of the hand, but against a fish I don't mind to bet pot on the flop and stack off.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I would play that hand the same at that blind level

At higher limits, you might consider bet/fold the flop, but then you would not pot it.
In cases where your AAXYss totally misses the flop, there is no shame in folding OTF even in 3-Bet pots

I'm curious to hear what the experts say, since these situations come up a lot.

cbet flop 1/3 pot, check-fold on and shove any other turn

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
At higher limits, you might consider bet/fold the flop

Don't bet-fold AA on a paired board at SPR2. Villain is not able to hit trips often enough.

Okay, guys I follow you. I did notice when I read over a Gold Level article on here ... that a similar situation where a HERO was OOP and they suggested not to 3 Bet pre like I did but to just call. Then maybe follow Mascherano95's suggestion of cbetting the flop 1/3 pot and perhaps then if I get re potted to even go into the tank and slowdown maybe calculate my equity. If villian #1 folds still to a 1/3 pot size cbet and then V2 re pots on me then what VorpalF2F said, I could fold it down and sense something fishy. I do not have a deuce nor a club so could cut the losses and again , because of the article I read on here, the call OOP pre flop COULD have been my saving grace in this particular hand.

Finally, why play the hand different at PLO2 or PLO5 or PLO1000 ? Thanks everyone

Originally posted by mathkid
Finally, why play the hand different at PLO2 or PLO5 or PLO1000 ? Thanks everyone
Because the players at PLO100 and up know what they're doing.
At PLO2 and PLO5 you can get away with a lot more shenanigans.
Even at PLO10 they'll punish you.

Thank you.

Originally posted by mathkid
If villian #1 folds still to a 1/3 pot size cbet and then V2 re pots on me then what VorpalF2F said, I could fold it down and sense something fishy. I do not have a deuce nor a club so could cut the losses and again , because of the article I read on here, the call OOP pre flop COULD have been my saving grace in this particular hand.

At this flop, villain is going to hit trips+ only 1 out of 16 times (5%), the 622 is one of the safest paired boards for AAxx, only 722 or 822 might be better for your range. With villain's preflop call he is investing at pot odds of 3:1 (3 players, normally 2:1 at hu). In this case, he has to win back 145bb on average to break-even. With 100bb effective stack, that is impossible: Your strategy will be +EV if you stack off 100% no matter what villain is doing postflop. (The assumption is, villain has a top-heavy 30% vpip and is not primarily playing 2xxx hands preflop ♠_biggrin:).

If you start check-folding and bet-folding, you open yourself up to exploitation that possibly could cut your EV. Imo the idea behind betting 1/3pot is, you can bet-fold against nitty straightforward players, punish loose calls with a wider c-betting range and also to steal pots, when you are just holding air, but AAxx is the not-folding value part of your balanced overall strategy, from where you strive to exploit villain even more.

There are some opponents, where you can bet 1/3 pot and fold vs raise even with AAxx because villain is raising trips only. You would need reads against such a fit-fold villain to fold though, so you must be sure they do it with a range heavily weighted towards value hands like trips. If V1 calls and V2 shoves over the top, you can savely assume, one of em has trips and you can fold your AA too.

Okay, so I identify a lot with what you wrote mainly from reading a book called PLO from Scratch. Have you read this book ? Thanks for your comments very much here ! Also, so in a nutshell, I did not do wrong in my HU situation right ? I got it all in and let the chips fall where they would. I was 100% right to do so right ?

What article says to call from SB with AA instead of squeezing? Might a bit out-of-date...

I would bet 1/3, makes your life easy at PLO5. If they have you beat, they raise and you can fold. If they call, you can shove all non-club turns.

Originally posted by mathkid
Have you read this book ? Thanks for your comments very much here !

You're welcome!

Yes I've read it too, last year. The article is indeed outdated, it recommends an overly nitty approach which imo is fine when you start to play the game though. So basically the range recommendations are outdated (as gto shows we should play much more loose and aggressive than commonly assumed) but not the other concepts. Stuff like the 4-betting chapter can never be outdated since math always stays the same when we keep using the same 52-cards deck.

For all theory stuff out there I can tell you, if you check the validity of the assumptions made, outdated stuff cannot harm you. I still agree with his main strategical foundation to become a winning player:

• Play tight
• Play in Position

Also, so in a nutshell, I did not do wrong in my HU situation right ? I got it all in and let the chips fall where they would. I was 100% right to do so right?

Yes, I'd say so. Try to always account for the strategy you would apply with your whole range on specific groups of board texture instead of just looking at single hands, otherwise you will end up nut-peddling which is a losing strategy in an aggressive semi-compentent highly raked environment. Beside Texture and Position the SPR also plays an important role cause it is influencing the relative handstrengths and play on later streets. The 1/3 pot bet is better for the reasons I already mentioned and if the computer has to choose a sizing for his optimal balanced play he would choose a small sizing here too.

Originally posted by Kyyberi
What article says to call from SB with AA instead of squeezing? Might a bit out-of-date...

The article is not saying you should call AA from SB in general. I am also not recommending calling pre: From SB we clearly prefer 3betting basically all AAxx rather than calling.
There are some few rainbow AAxx we might call for balancing purposes but you are right for PLO5 this range splitting would be making things too complicated.

This article is what I was referencing here on pokerstrategy Gold Level Strategy Article

Pot-Limit Omaha Ring game $1/$2 (6 players)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $46.30
UTG+1: $296
CO: $95
Hero: $201
SB: $199.40
BB: $86.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7♥:8♠:5♠:6♦:
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Hero raises to $9, SB raises to $31, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: Q♦:5♥:6♣: ($66, 2 players)
SB bets $66, Hero raises all-in, SB calls.

Turn: K♠: ($402.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $402.8)

River: 4♦: ($402.8, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $402.8)

Results:
SB shows 3♣:A♠:A♣:J♣:
SB has A♠:A♣:Q♦:K♠:6♣: a pair of aces.

Hero shows 7♥:8♠:5♠:6♦:
Hero has 8♠:6♣:5♥:4♦:7♥: straight, eight high.

In this case, you had 74.51% equity on the flop with two pair and the straight draw against the opponent's aces, meaning you can go all-in right on the flop.

The opponent committed himself to the pot with his continuation bet and had to call your all-in raise. On a separate note, your opponent's mistake was made before the flop when he gave you the chance to play in position after the flop.

Originally posted by mathkid
The opponent committed himself to the pot with his continuation bet and had to call your all-in raise. On a separate note, your opponent's mistake was made before the flop when he gave you the chance to play in position after the flop.

I edited your post to put the suits in, but even with that information it is surprising that they are suggesting that one should fold 3♣:A♠:A♣:J♣: vs a BTN raise pre-flop?

In that example SB and hero played hands correctly and no one made a mistake. But I don't see how that applies to idea that one should call from SB with AAxx instead of 3betting?

I did realize from this thread that I've left a huge amount of cash on the table by not getting it in with massively good draws on the flop.