[PLO2] KKQxJx - overpair + bd fd

flop: you said you are betting for value. for this you need >50% equity. according to your list of calling hands see PPT:
http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=6d7cTc&g=oh5&h1=JdKcQdKs&h2=76%2CT6T7%2CT8%2CT9%2C66%2C%28JJ%2CQQ%2CKK%2CAA%29%21cc%2CJ8%2C85%2Ccc%2C98%3Acc&s=generic
therefore you are not betting for value.

Also your flop bet is on the bigger side. you should start thinking about betting smaller on these flops. also, you said villain should raise straights without redraws and sets but at this spr this would be a mistake. you also dont block any straights or sets so that is another reason not to bet the flop and therefore dont bet the turn

Tell you my thoughts from street to street.

Originally posted by pguest
$0.02 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players

Flop: (8 BB, 2 players) 6♦ 7♣ T♣
Thoughts and questions:

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still no clue how should I approach this board vs a unknown on PLO2; if it should be mainly check/fold or if I start cbetting here, I still could make villain fold some hands until the river...
Well, cbetted mostly for value here, but I m aware my hand is pretty marginal.
After villain called, I m putting him in something like 76,T[6-9],66,JJ-AA:*!cc,J8,85,cc,98:cc.
I think any middle or top set or overpair + fd or str8 without a fd would had raised me OTF

SB checks, Hero bets 5 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Im in position with a wide range against an unknown player with a more defined range. The flop is a Straight-flop mid-high/wet. In general, I want to polarize my Range against an unknown player in position and be somewhat balanced. I have a FD-Blocker, a Pivot-card and an overpair of KK's. My blocking value is marginal, not good enough to bluff though and I have some showdownvalue so I check back to protect my check-back range and get further information. There are some very good turncards I can hit.

Turn: (18 BB, 2 players) T♦
Thoughts and questions:

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Should I cbet on this turn or simply giving up? Villain has more overpairs/draws than toppairs/sets/2pairs

SB checks, Hero checks

The T♦: is a tricky card. It is bringing me a backdoor flushdraw and strenghtens the value of my overpair but at the same time I could be giving villain implied odds as a fullhouse or trips+redraw is now possible. But Villain checks, he usually does not do it if he has a strong made hand like trips, underfull or straight so my hand is ahead here. I will bet/fold my overpair to protect my hand.

(As played I would check-back the turn for potcontol and there is no value in betting and bluff-barreling two times without reads is quite spewy.)

River: (18 BB, 2 players) 9♠
Thoughts and questions:

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At this point, without cbetting OTT, I can t represent much

SB checks, Hero checks

The river is a blank and I try to showdown my hand here as I might be good, the 9♠: does not generate a lot of FE and also no worse hands will call me.

Originally posted by efkay
flop: you said you are betting for value. for this you need >50% equity. according to your list of calling hands see PPT:
http://www.propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=6d7cTc&g=oh5&h1=JdKcQdKs&h2=76%2CT6T7%2CT8%2CT9%2C66%2C%28JJ%2CQQ%2CKK%2CAA%29%21cc%2CJ8%2C85%2Ccc%2C98%3Acc&s=generic
therefore you are not betting for value.

I would not take solely Equity here into the decision about betting the flop. this makes sense on the river but on the flop in general if you decide to polarize it should be nuttiness over equity and also the consideration what villains calling range looks like and the playability on later streets.

Check flop. You don't have many turn cards you can happily barrel, but you have good equity versus his range on the flop and decent amount of good turns. By checking, you cap your range on the flop but it will not be a problem in general as you can call almost any turn bet (besides a club) and then by the river board has changed so opponent can't just barrel you with high frequency (in theory).