Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

[PLO5] KKTX SS - overpair in HU and nasty board

5 Posts
3 Users
0 Reactions
340 Views
pguest
Joined: 01.04.2009

$0.05 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players

SB: 127.6 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: 103 BB (VPIP: 44.44, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 125 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
Hero (CO): 104.8 BB
BTN: 127.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♣ 7♠ T♥ K♥

fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2.4 BB

Flop: (7.2 BB, 2 players) 7♦ 9♣ J♣
BB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, BB calls 7 BB
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

apart from position, I don t really have much on this board (an overpair and a gutshot?), but I still beat some hands and I check, I d have to fold to a lot of turns.

Turn: (21.2 BB, 2 players) Q♦
BB checks, Hero bets 20.2 BB, BB calls 20.2 BB
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

No reason for not extracting value with the best hand.

River: (61.6 BB, 2 players) 2♦
BB checks, Hero checks
Thoughts and questions:

Spoiler

I think the main question here is if I should call if villain leads?

Spoiler

BB shows 3♠ Q♠ A♣ 4♣ (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 45%, Flop 45%, Turn 20%)
Hero wins 58.6 BB


Reply
Quote
4 replies
Eselsdorfjung
Joined: 05.07.2014

I wouldn´t bet OTF.

Let´s say you get raised OTF - what do you do?
How many outs do you have to improve your hand and feel comfortable?


Reply
Quote
Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

It is a straight-flop so I would use a small sizing like half pot to cbet the flop.

You also have the :Tx:xxx which is blocking nut-straights and draws from villain's continuing range, your hand has few chances to improve so cbetting is surely no mistake. It makes sense to check-back some of your stronger overpairs thought to protect your checking range, but
1) we want to do that when we have a marginal draw accompanying our weak made hand
2) this is only relevant if villains is capable of leading turns exploitatively.

@Eselsdorfjung

Let´s say you get raised OTF - what do you do?

Fold of course.

How many outs do you have to improve your hand...

We have no clean outs to improve. We should be polarizing so we are not betting depending on how many outs we have.

...and feel comfortable?

Yes because we have an easy decision on any street: fold or check-back with a hand that potentially wins some showdown.


Reply
Quote
Eselsdorfjung
Joined: 05.07.2014

Actually when I am now going through that hand I am with you @Mascherano and b/f.

So it is basically betting OTF and if we get called giving up OTT and trying to get to showdown?


Reply
Quote
Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

It is a basic principle in PLO that we more often bet our "now probably ahead but very vulnerable hands" instantly as we prefer our opponent to fold. The reason for this is Equity runs close and denying it has a lot of value. Let's assume you check-back and villain is leading the turn repping a fairly strong hand or semi-bluff. You will have a hard time calling anyways but your overpair would have been worth a single bet or an attempt to reach showdown. You have no more pot-control but it is unlikely villain will get tricky and start to outplay you frequently in big pots out of position.

So it is basically betting OTF and if we get called giving up OTT and trying to get to showdown?

Yes, our hand looks like a made hand where we have value but as we have no playability it is actually a mix of all three value, protection and bluffing. We are happy when air is folding cause virtually anything still could catch up against our single pair.


Reply
Quote
Share: