$109 Sunday Million - TT vs 3betshove 50bbs

Seems like a classic ICM squeeze.
Where are we in relation to the bubble?

What are his tendencies?

Tough spot for me -- I would hate to flip for my life pre-bubble, but wouldn't mind if SB was considerably shorter.
We're multi-way, and UTG has folded, so unlikely has JJ+, which leave SB open to having them.

I really want to see what experts think here.

I vote "swear loudly and fold"

Cheers,
VS

Fold.

You might even want to fold to the opening bet. You never want to make plays that are like; “meh”. Especially with just 50bbs. If you’re deeper you don’t mind so much.

In most tourney situations, if you don’t have either a sneaky play or a power play, the chips you put in the pot will just end up as dead money. This example is no exception.

Never fold to original raise... This is close versus shove assuming cEV situation. Point is that SB shoving range is very often capped as most players would make normal 3bet with big pockets to induce more action.

In general you also want to think little bit about your calling range. E.g. you would likely 3bet at least KK+ and perhaps QQ, AK so if you also fold TT here it will leave mostly just JJ as hand to call.

PS: Well as I thought its around breakeven versus capped range. So folding is fine but JJ would be call.

Folding is fine... Raising is fine... Calling is fine... Anything is always a potential play.

There is no such thing as a correct play in Poker nor in life. If you ever think you’ve found a correct play for some situation all you’ve done is shut off your mind to other plays in said situation. When you then find yourself in that situation, you will experience cognitive dissonance as the trusted play conflicts with your natural strategic thought-process which further hinders your strategic capabilities by damaging your mental wellbeing.

I’m impressed that you were able to backtrack there Ghaleon. I can see your inner turmoil. I can see all the little demons in your mind going mental when they recognise the undeniable truth written by the Hands of God. I can hear their rage as they roar in your ear:

I can hear them laughing as they urge you to mock the man who would set you free... They still have you under their spell Ghaleon. So be mindful when you consider this post. Be patient good sir, wait until you are calm before you attempt to reply.

If you think about it, an “actual range” is just a series of those “correct plays”. This is even less important than considering the correct play for the hand that you hold! It’s the opposite of important. Thinking like this makes you way worse at Poker.

None of that stuff matters at the tables. It’s all just GTO trickery. It’s the Devil I tell ya’.

All that really matters when making poker decisions is how much money you will make off your actual hand: You compare your actual hand to the villains range, consider future decisions, and guess whether you will make any money in the end.

That, right there, is the all efficient natural calculation. It’s easy to do and I’m guessing you can already do it extremely accurately for poker situations. You’d probably be a great player if you could get all this GTO shite out of your brain.

Completely forget about your actual range ghaleon. Discard any trust you have in all the standard lines that you’ve memorised over the years. Consider all your options.

It's to bad we don't know anything of the villains in this hand. If the UTG player is a LAG a 3bet is a decent option as well, but in general I would call as well and fold against the weird over shove of the SB.

Cheers,
SDK1987

lol am I being leveled here or this yadi guy serious?

I’m probably the best player you’ll ever meet and I never lie.

If you doubt it you could always join me at the tables. The mods seems to be backing out of the game they promised...

Originally posted by yadijavadi
I’m probably the best player you’ll ever meet and I never lie.

If you doubt it you could always join me at the tables. The mods seems to be backing out of the game they promised...

 I am unlikely to ever meet you.
 No game was ever promised by any mod that I'm aware of -- certainly not by me.

Looks like he called my post of this thread a challenge:
https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3103741#post3103741

Thanks everybody for your thoughts.
Sorry, I forgot to mention we are freshly in the money, 1500 left (2nd pay tier) and the only info on villain is he is not opted-in on sharkscope

And here’s me thinking we were like brothers Vorpal... Not exactly an incentive to post on your site...