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Hey,

I am gonna be brutally honest with you.

I have been playing poker for multiple years - on and off.

I started as a young fella. I remember waiting till my 18th birthday so that I could've registered my stars account haha.

alright, getting to the point right now

After multiple years of playing, I got into this study group. And these guys were cheating like crazy. So what did I do?

I had a moral dilemma for about 5 ms (which is even less than ping for google.tld) and I started using that shit immediately.

It was a real time GTO bot, which was showing me how often to make a certain action and with what sizing. Sounds perfect, init?

I was not thinking about the consequences. I was just thinking - oh, how clever is, that I am using this unfair advantage.

not proud of what I did

You know, I was not thinking about it like - man, I am doing something wrong.

I was thinking like this - fuck all regs in the ass with this tool. And I was fucking em big time.

But then, after some time I started to question that - is this really what I wanna do? Is this really the story, that I wanna tell my kids?

Just imagine - kids, now sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up and listen. Your dad is a former cheater. No, I don't mean no aimbot and shit in counter strike 1.6, I mean proper cheating in online poker.

How fucked up is that? I am telling my future kids anyway, no need to lie about anything. But back to the point.

quit

I had to quit it. So I went from playing upper midstakes to fucking low stakes.

I could not have keep living like that anymore. I felt like shit. I was basically screwing people over.

Sometimes, I just do stupid shit, and don't realize it immediately.

You know, this happened a while ago. But I didn't wanna make it public until my friends quit as well.

So here I am now, talking to you, confessing.

You don't know my name. And there is a reason for that. In the future, I will make a public statement in my real name. But not yet. I don't wanna be known as a motherfucking scammer, cheater and whatnot in poker community.

karma

Karma fucked me in the ass multiple times. But it ain't no entity. It is me! So I let the universe fuck me in the ass. I gotta face the consequences. I mean I have been facing them for a long time.

So now I am back at stars. Playing without any SW whatsoever.

Oh btw, this incident with GTO bot was going on a different site. Dont wanna state the name, so I don't ruin their name.

Stars is very strict. Multiple acc's got banned for using SW that violates the TOS.

So yeah, I was playing with that shit for about 9 months.

My carrer have been going on for years, but this era is most crucial.

Have a nice day guys, and if you feel like it judge me haha.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I cannot state the names, numbers... just general stuff (same rules as ex-killers have... I mean ex-soldiers)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi Viiiiiiiiiii,
Interesting post

Dont wanna state the name, so I don't ruin their name.

It seems to me that if you know of someone actively cheating, it is your duty to report to someone who can do something about it.
The poker room, the regulatory agency or similar.

Just posting here will do nothing to stop it.

Glad you quit, though...
VS


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I disagree.

Friendship means more for me than some ridiculous moral rules.

U know why? Cause poker itself is a theft hahaha.

We STEAL the blinds, lol.

So I just used to situation. But dont wanna do it anymore.

If somebody wants to do it... whatever, none of my business.

But I just avoid these shady poker skins. Not anymore haha.

Stars are fucked up - rakeback wise - but action is as juicy as a pussy of a squirting pornstar.

Anyway - would you report a friend of yours that plays with illegal software? Really?

My duty aint shit. I just live my life.

Live and let live - I try to live my life according to this.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I missed the part about it being a friend -- I thought it was just part of a study group.
If this poses a moral dilemma for you so be it.

You ask...

would you report a friend of yours that plays with illegal software? Really?

I can't say, since the situation hasn't arisen. I make a distinction between "legal" and "right"

I would hope that if I found out a friend was cheating, that we would cease to be friends, but since it hasn't happened yet, I really can't say what I would do.

Also, I should mention that what you post in a public forum can be seen by all.
I suggest that you read our forum principles
Although you state that you have stopped using illegal software, you appear to support its use -- although you have not exactly said so.

I wish you all the best,
VS


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hello,

I DO NOT SUPPORT usage of ILLEGAL SOFTWARE.

I am against it. And I know what I am talking about, as I was using it...

Anyway, I am planning to post this even on 2p2, so that people know how is the situation.

And this was happening in 2017, I cannot imagine state of some poker skins nowadays.

But even some smaller skins started to ban cheaters. I am glad for that.

And friend's part - I am no snitch, period

Thanks for posting the rules :) I did not realize, that I was doing something wrong. Will fix my leaks in the talking/writing range

have a nice day

Viiiiiiiiiii


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Thanks for understanding


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LorD231984
Joined: 17.07.2007

Dear Viiiiiiiiiii,
This is more than interesting what you are saying. I am actually quite shocked this could happen in any poker room like this. I have always had some kind of feeling that poker groups were playing against me with some edge like:
- sharing hands about me and analyzing me,
- discussions and group strategy against me,
- even maybe play together with sharing cards some times and hero calling in spots not really +EV,
But I would not imagine having GTO bots in live game, this really explain a lot of things for guys playing very similarly and doing things other regs not doing at all...

Could we have pls some discussion in private? I am just interested in which room, which limits you are sure there were GTO and maybe some other questions just for me to be more cautious a bit.
Thank you a lot,
Lord


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