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KK facing raise on the turn- 200bb deep

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robstars7
Joined: 23.05.2012

** Hand History For Game 1589292857442vghuacht8bk **
0.05/0.10 Texas Holdem Game Table (NL) - Tue May 12 10:12:55 EDT 2020
Table 6-Max NLH [$5-$10 Buy-in] 16 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6/6
Seat 1: Player3 ($10)
Seat 2: Player4 ($10)
Seat 3: Player5 ($21.21)
Seat 4: Player6 ($18.50)
Seat 5: Hero ($18.18)
Seat 6: Player2 ($18.74)
Hero posts small blind (0.05)
Player2 posts big blind (0.10)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ks, Kh ]
Player3 folds
Player4 folds
Player5 raises 0.25 to 0.25
Player6 folds
Hero raises 1.05 to 1.10
Player2 folds
Player5 calls (0.85)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 2h, 7c, Ts ]
Hero bets (1.40)
Player5 calls (1.40)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3c ]
Hero bets (3.80)
Player5 raises 7.60 to 7.60
Hero calls (3.80)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5s ]
Hero checks
Player5 bets (11.11)
Player5 is all-In.
Hero calls (8.08)
Hero is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $ 35.46 with Hero
** Summary **
Main Pot: $35.46 Rake: $1.0
Board: [ 2h, 7c, Ts, 3c, 5s ]
Player3 balance $10, didn't bet (folded)
Player4 balance $10, didn't bet (folded)
Player5 balance $38.49, bet $21.21, collected $38.49, net +$17.28[ 2d, 2c ] [ three of a kind, twos -- Ts,7c,2d,2c,2h ]
Player6 balance $18.50, didn't bet (folded)
Hero balance $0, lost $18.18[ Ks, Kh ] [ a pair of kings -- Ks,Kh,Ts,7c,5s ]
Player2 balance $18.64, lost $0.10 (folded)

4.5x pre, my standard oop 3 bet.... but should i go bigger as we're both deep?

Flop i think is okay, i thought to go bigger but its a pretty dry board > I think opps float a lot of these textures as well and my sizing allows that.

Turn I'm happy with my lead as it sets up a psb shove for good rivers. I think villian can have some combos of 10x, JJ, QQ (maybe 4 bets?) AX floats, and ofc sets, although 22 may fold 3 bet pre?

With the min raise I'm hating things, but KK is pretty high on my range of hands I can have. I prob only have a set of 10s here in my range which I beat any non pair with. Should i fold here on would it be too tight?

When I call turn I cant fold any river that isnt an A can I?

Any comments on this spot appreciated....


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

I 3bet bigger oop and I also 3bet bigger when deep so I'm likely 3betting it from 14BB to 16BB preflop.

I think you can bet/fold turn, your line is very strong yet he is raising you on turn something is definitely wrong here, imo.

If I knew that the villain is a reg then I think I would fold here on turn. Otherwise, checking turn to pot control is not a bad option either at these stack sizes.

As played, after bet/calling on turn, I think you have to go with this hand.


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Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008

Min-raise on the turn is a strong sign of strength actually. usually 2 pair or better on a dry board, because he wants you to call.
An over pair usually raises flop or just calls down.

River I don't think we can call here. At times sure we will be bluffed, but overall we are more behind than ahead.


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

When that deep and vs reg i would definitely check/call turn and most probably check/call river. This way you keep his range wide and you would see tons of 22/QQ that have not hit a set and will try to bluff you or would think they are betting for value vs your range.

If you bet/bet/bet 3 streets the only hands that would pay you off are most probably QQ and JJ and if the player is decent he might even fold them. I also dont think he ever pays 3str with Tx unless a fish. If opponent is fishy 3str of aggression seems ok.

Once he raises turn i think im done with the hand. He either has a huge spew or hit the set. And ppl rarely bluff in 3b pots especially 200 bb deep


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