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Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008

Converted by the cows of Feral Cow Poker
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.02/$0.05 - 6 players

Button: $5.09 (Hero)
SB: $26.17
BB: $5.00
UTG: $5.28
UTG+1: $14.41
CO: $5.42

Preflop: ($0.07) Hero is Button with (6 players)
UTG raises to $0.13, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.27

Flop: ($0.87) (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.87) (2 players)
UTG bets $0.3, Hero raises to $1.1, UTG calls $0.8

River: ($3.07) (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.53, UTG raises to $3.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.06 and is all-in, UTG shows, Hero shows

River? Should we jsut check behind?


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

I would probably bet small on flop to get value from his Ace. I am very suspicious of his flop check.

As played, I think I would raise bigger on turn because of missed bet on flop, and also turn card brings two SDs and BFD.

River is just a cooler. I wouldn't worry about it. I am definitely bet calling on river for sure.


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Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008

What turn raise would you suggest or any links to guides?
I am off my math I think at this spots and I used to know it. Now I am struggling a bit with sizing if villain bets 1/3 of pot (which happens way more frequently now than befor) as I also don't want him to fold Ax type of hands, but I also don't want to give him odds to draw if he is.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by Dragar
What turn raise would you suggest or any links to guides?
I am off my math I think at this spots and I used to know it. Now I am struggling a bit with sizing if villain bets 1/3 of pot (which happens way more frequently now than befor) as I also don't want him to fold Ax type of hands, but I also don't want to give him odds to draw if he is.

6x to 7x his lead on turn.

Also, sometimes I consider shoving on these spots against weak players.


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SittingOuts
Joined: 05.05.2010

Bet turn even for 1/3 sizing, as played, you never ever good on the river, fold.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SittingOuts
Bet turn even for 1/3 sizing, as played, you never ever good on the river, fold.

I have not learned that lesson yet.

Spoiler

Thank you for checking river now let me repay you in kind.
PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 100 BB
Hero (BTN): 113.81 BB
SB: 211.44 BB
BB: 30.31 BB
UTG: 106.44 BB
MP: 142.63 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, CO posts penalty blind 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has T♠ T♣

fold, fold, CO checks, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, BB calls 8 BB, CO calls 8 BB

Flop: (27.5 BB, 3 players) 4♣ 5♥ T♦
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB

Turn: (36.5 BB, 3 players) 6♦
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 20 BB, fold, CO calls 20 BB

River: (76.5 BB, 2 players) 8♦
CO checks, Hero bets 81.81 BB and is all-in, CO calls 68 BB and is all-in

Hero shows T♠ T♣ (Three of a Kind, Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 96%, Turn 82%)
CO shows K♦ 5♦ (Flush, King High)
(Pre 32%, Flop 4%, Turn 18%)
CO wins 203.13 BB


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I would probably bet small on flop to get value from his Ace. I am very suspicious of his flop check.

How small is small?

This is cash, and NL 5, so we can get value from Ax hands up to even a pot-sized bet (or so I think)

We don't hear the term "elastic range" or "inelastic range" much any more, but this is a good example where villain has a very elastic range -- he can call with a lot of hands in his range, and he is unlikely to fold

I would bet minimum 1/2 pot OTF.
I'm not suspicious of UTGs check, since this is a 3Bet pot, he is checking to the player with the initiative.
By checking back the flop, you hand the initiative over to UTG, who makes good use of it.


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I would probably bet small on flop to get value from his Ace. I am very suspicious of his flop check.

How small is small?

33% pot probably, I wanna start building the pot early also.


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Dragar
Joined: 09.09.2008

Yeah have started using 1/3 pot flop lines in my game now in the flop where we are way ahead. It does induce villains at times so it's nice.


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Tyrion88
Joined: 21.06.2007

Originally posted by Dragar
Yeah have started using 1/3 pot flop lines in my game now in the flop where we are way ahead. It does induce villains at times so it's nice.

I would do so, if my hand is very invulnerable. Since the board is dry, i think that is a good line in this spot.


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Cbet flop mostly, check may be fine too. Checking top of the range on such dry boards is ok sometimes.
Turn call. Raise after flop check doesn't make sense.
River was misplayed. Shove or check/back, that size makes no sense. He has more flushes in his range (way more), so checking back here is ok.
As played, you have to call.


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KatalonacX
Joined: 22.11.2013

OTF we need to bet it's 3bet pot,we don't blok Ax,OTT raise is ok and make bigger, preparing for river shove, OTR bet big or shove both fine,maybe he raise with lower sets or AJ(9com), if vilian hits BDFD we with Axss, I think we can't avoid that.


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