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JJ Shove OOP OTF

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Deine
Joined: 27.07.2019

Third hand, no stats, nothing at all

THoughts ?

SB: $5.76 (11.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $78.78 (157.6 bb)
MP: $73.67 (147.3 bb)
CO: $59.03 (118.1 bb)
BTN: $51.23 (102.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J♦: J♠:
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, SB raises to $5.76 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.26, BTN calls $4.51

Flop: ($17.28) 8♥: 3♦: 8♦: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
Hero bets $44.24 and is all-in, BTN calls $44.24

Turn: ($105.76) K♥: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($105.76) A♦: (3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:

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$105.76 pot ($2 rake)
Final Board: 8♥: 3♦: 8♦: K♥: A♦:
SB showed K♦: T♠: and lost (-$5.76 net)
Hero showed J♦: J♠: and lost (-$50 net)
BTN showed 8♠: 9♠: and won $103.76 ($53.76 net)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I'm not a fan of this move in cash games unless the effective stacks are small.
Here you're both 100BB + so you need room to manoeuvre post flop.

If you really had an 8, you would (and should) CBet for 1/3 to 2/3 pot -- or maybe even larger because of the dead money,
The fact that BTN held an 8 is just unlucky

I'm curious to see what others think though...


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burek2000
Joined: 16.11.2007

Why shove flop? It's as dry a board as it can get in 3b pot. You even block a flush draw with your J♦:.

C-bet flop 1/3 pot size and go from there.


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