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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

I will do by best to move up to NL100 or above in 2021 or else I will quit this game :) here are the milestones:

24 July 2020: Started to play MTTs, lost a few 10's of $
09 Aug. 2020: Started NL2, won ~32BI in ~20k hands
24 Aug. 2020: Started NL5 with 125$ & also start of the blog
06. Sep. 2020: Started NL10 with 250$ - Link to NL5 Graph
21 Sep. 2020: 2nd shot at NL10 (1st one failed) Link to the NL5 Graph ~51k hands and 54BI in AI EV
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More background:

after a much needed 4 years break I wanted to play poker again. I tried tournaments but where I live (Czech Republic) it's obnoxious: politicians decided to "legalize" poker and now Czech players have this nice pop-up when they register for a tournament for which <50% of the guarantee has been reached:

So it's terrible to play KO tourneys, any hyper/turbo tournament, it reduces my edge (I am stronger at deeper stacks for now), and I have to constantly check lobbies to see when 50% is reached etc. it's disgusting combined with the fact that I work and that playing in evenings was not really an option, I was ready to quit poker again... but I decided to play Zoom poker, and that's just incredible how convenient it is! It went well, small sample though:

I played 29/22 on the sample, 8% 3bet, 68% fold to 3bet, folded my BB 50%/29% vs steal from BTN/SB. I am well aware that some regs might have attempted to exploit me preflop by 3betting me but I think playing a lot of pots vs bad players and out playing them postflop ultimately yielded in a higher profit. I don't think such approach is sustainable if I want to keep being a winning player so that will have to change soon :)

Now I'm starting NL5, although I ran good for my first session I am not confident in my preflop game vs. every reg, I see a lot more 3bets and things I didn't see in 2015 (very large 3bets, even IP, and I'm like ?(, I'm seeing x3 4bets since NL2, I don't really get it either).

My short-term plan is to not suffer at Zoom 5 too much while I get the Gold status here (how fortunate that I registered my PS account on PokerStrategy 11 years ago), it seems that w34z3l has a lot of videos that could help me, I'll start with his preflop series. I should be folding around 50% vs 3bets I guess and I'm far from that. I saw things like folding 22 preflop from UTG and it baffles me, looks like I need to do some work ;)

I decided to be active here to meet like-minded people (micro-stakes players who aim to study the game and play higher), I'll post updates every 25k hands or so + post video reviews.

With my cashins, my bankroll is 136.51$. I plan to move up as soon as I have 25BI of next stakes and move down as soon as I have 20BI of current stakes. I don't play for a living so I think this aggressive BRM is fine. Long-term goal is to play Zoom 100 and above


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi Swish29
Welcome to blogging section! :welcome:
Nice graph!
What a handicap!
entering a PKO late makes for a real tough game.

Maybe -- just maybe -- if enough people complain some politicians might relax that rule.

Best of luck :gl:,
VS


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Maybe -- just maybe -- if enough people complain some politicians might relax that rule.

Well, they're politicians after all so I have little hope :) also, Zoom is too convenient, if I play MTTs I could downswing for a very long time because I would be playing mostly large fields etc., and playing after work is not ideal, so I can only play during the weekends and it's socially very difficult. Last Sunday I was out with friends in the afternoon, I played in the morning and evening, if I would be an MTT player I would have had to skip playing yesterday or cancel my activity, neither is ideal.

Looks like I will miss on Gold status this month, I guess I'll only get it in October :/ I think I will buy a course from another platform. According to https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=347065 I don't break any rules by saying which course, so can I disclose it or not really?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi Swish29,
You are correct, a simple mention of the course you're taking is OK.
What isn't OK is promoting the course, or providing links or recommendations.

BTW thanks for checking first!

Best Regards,
VS


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

I watched a video of confidant91 because I saw his name in another blog: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/43698/

I was not impressed. He says that SB should 3bet 1/3 of an opening range (UTG opens 15%, you 3bet 5%, BTN opens 45%, you open 15% etc.), no real reason behind it. It sounds nice and people have charts to follow but it seems arbitrary, I would like to do more than clicking buttons because a guy said that's what should be done. He says that we should have 1:1 ratio between bluffs and value for our 3bets and 4bets in other positions (SB is linear) but it's not clear to me what we should decide to 3bet (and why), I could still decide to 3bet 30% of the time, and split these with values and bluffs at 1:1. Then there was some "live" play at NL10 Zoom, he cbet 3.7/5.5bb with Kx on AQJ BT vs BB and in a 3bet pot IP was talking about cbetting AK 70% of the pot to get hands with 3 outs to fold ?(

Hopefully I will be more amazed at w34z3l's videos or the other course I want to buy :)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi Swish29,
This might interest you.
I noticed a few days ago that w34z3l is taking applications for coaching again: https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3168204#post3168204

Check it out...
VS


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Thanks. I think it's an overkill to go for CFP for now, I should play by myself for as long as I beat the stakes, the more I wait for coaching the more I will profit from it - if I get coaching now I would probably be given information I would figure out by other means. If I get CFP when I am stuck and can't improve by myself, the information I will get will be a lot more valuable :)

Played my 2nd NL5 session today, it went well. Yesterday was intense, play 2 digits pots was not something I was ready for but today was better.


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

What an annoying session, lost 5BI and all the profits I had made at 5NL, I ran bad against terrible regs and started to tilt. I feel like quitting this shit game for another 5 years. It's incredible how I have no resilience

It's ridiculous how pissed I am for something so insignificant, I've never played so late on a weekday since I started to play again, it will take me a while to cool down and be able to fall asleep etc., all because I lost 25$, how pathetic :(


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

Originally posted by Swish29
I watched a video of confidant91 because I saw his name in another blog: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/43698/

yes, that's outdated, to say the least.

i can personally say that w34z3l was one of the people who had the biggest impact on my game. even if you don't agree with his suggested lines, reasoning is usually given so that you can adjust accordingly.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Swish29
What an annoying session, lost 5BI and all the profits I had made at 5NL, I ran bad against terrible regs and started to tilt. I feel like quitting this shit game for another 5 years. It's incredible how I have no resilience

It's ridiculous how pissed I am for something so insignificant, I've never played so late on a weekday since I started to play again, it will take me a while to cool down and be able to fall asleep etc., all because I lost 25$, how pathetic :(

I've been there (just on a lower limit). It is completely normal. Usually if I take a small break, I am able to reset my mental state.
See it as an opportunity to learn and grow. Getting through these situations is part of becoming a better player just as studying poker strategy.
Stay strong πŸ’ͺ🏻

Btw. +1 for w34z3l's 6max micro stakes video series.


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Thanks for the support guys :)

Originally posted by Tomaloc

Originally posted by Swish29
I watched a video of confidant91 because I saw his name in another blog: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/43698/

yes, that's outdated, to say the least.

i can personally say that w34z3l was one of the people who had the biggest impact on my game. even if you don't agree with his suggested lines, reasoning is usually given so that you can adjust accordingly.

OK, he has 10 pages of videos though, what should I start with in your opinion?

Was thinking of this:

In the meantime I will use the preflop ranges from the "From the Ground Up" CG course of RIO.

I saw some youtube videos where coaches seem to be considering folding/3betting/4betting more than what I was used to see 2015, due to the rake. Does anyone know some content that is discussing this? Do you have tight cold call ranges IP because of that/what adjustments do you make? Seems that some guys advocate 3b/f instead of calling. I've seen pretty tight folds from the BB, also "because of the rake".


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

you're playing zoom with antes so, if anything, you should play looser than usual.
as far as i know, nobody actually made up a whole set of ranges for antes yet (also probably because the proportion of antes varies a bit with the stakes), but i'm playing 30 VPIP... maybe i'm just indulging myself.


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

I'm 29/22 and play without antes, playing 5NL at the moment.

I'm missing 204 SP for Gold Status, I'm getting 15 SP per day that I play, if I play the next 4 days it means I need to get 144SP from the tables, which is about 15k hands, but I have friends visiting so that's a bit inconvenient :/


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Swish29
OK, he has 10 pages of videos though, what should I start with in your opinion?

You can find the videos of the micro stakes series here (filter for "walkthrough"): https://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/?query=walkthrough&content_type=0&game_type=0&table_size=0&language%5B%5D=en&submit=Search

And here is the thread: https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?threadid=309916


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Well poker is a game that evolves fast, watching 6 years old content can be very dangerous. In 2014 for instance, if you'd learn to play poker with 2008 video you would be destroyed. There are things that never change (like what is EV, the maths behind evaluating if a 3bet/steal/shove etc. is profitable, pot odds etc.), is it the case of these video series? (That it is a timeless truth)


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Swish29
Well poker is a game that evolves fast, watching 6 years old content can be very dangerous. In 2014 for instance, if you'd learn to play poker with 2008 video you would be destroyed. There are things that never change (like what is EV, the maths behind evaluating if a 3bet/steal/shove etc. is profitable, pot odds etc.), is it the case of these video series? (That it is a timeless truth)

I do not disagree.
However, the content is really good. Most of it probably is still valid AFAIKT. And it is very often the principles and thought processes that matter.
Other details are less important, e.g. you might deviate from the suggested pre-flop ranges.

I also like the series because it covers so many aspects and spots, it is a very good whole basis. I do not like fragmented content, that is hard to fit into my overall concepts.

But please if you come across anything else you can recommend for starting out with NLH 6max micros, let me know! So far it is one of the best strategy content I could find.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

i forgot that stars didn't add antes to microstakes pools in all their services.
so, on one hand you have higher rake in micros, on the other hand you have big exploits against the population :f_biggrin: in the end they somewhat balance out, but i prefer to call a little less preflop (in favor of 3bet or folding) since pots you win preflop aren't raked.


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Swish29
Joined: 06.04.2009

Done for the month, won 36BI in 30k hands but I'm not very happy:

The reason is because of the last 10k hands, the Zoom 5 shot, didn't go well:

I didn't play my best and ran not good. Obviously it's a small sample, my EV winrate is not horrible but I think I can do better than this.

September 2020 goals:

-Reach Gold status
-Play 30k hands again. Although I played 30k this month, in September it will be much more challenging because I will be away from my place 2 weekends
-Figure out what is happening with people 3betting over x4 IP: do they know something I don't know? Are they terrible? Same for the people that overbet 4bet IP
One example of this, but I have many more:

Spoiler

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 212 BB
SB: 246.6 BB
BB: 94 BB
UTG: 98.8 BB
Hero (MP): 103.4 BB
CO: 191.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♠ K♦

fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, CO raises to 10 BB, BTN calls 10 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 103.4 BB and is all-in, fold, fold

Hero wins 31.4 BB

-Study the preflop power-up of w34z3l, it's a 1 year-old course, I have high hopes
(optional) -Finish the Lemon36 video on antes if things go really well and I expect to shot NL10 w/ antes
(optional) -If I'm not happy with the preflop power-up course for SB/BB defense, find something else and study that

So that's for the goals I can control, for the goals for which I have less/no control I would like to:
-Make more $ in September (made 77.53$ in August)
-Flop over 11.8% of sets (11.8% is how many times you get a set with a pocket pair on average)

I flopped 8.6% of sets at NL5 this month which is disgustingly low (31/360) :)

I guess I am not happy with these results because I feel entitled to win at these stakes which is not a good mindset. I should look at what I do wrong instead, I have a few ideas, I think I am doing too much for the following:
-Bluff in large pots, got some sick hero calls by some regs, maybe their call was bad vs population anyway but in this case I should adjust
-Bluffcatch vs "fish" in large pots
-Defend my BB (I fold 53% vs a BB steal)
-Cold call

I played 29.45/21.91 at NL5, and it's probably too loose because of the rake. Maybe I also have big leaks that regs are exploiting, and that's why it went better at the beginning?


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019
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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Very nice looking graph!

I wouldn't let the downswing at the end bother you much -- you had a worse one mid-month and held on.

All the best,
VS


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