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pinterkrisztian89
Joined: 09.02.2009

Hi guys. I got into a tricky situation today, and not sure whether I played my hand right.
Villain was 27/9/2
My assumption is, that he probably had an AK.
Any idea or advice would be highly appreciated.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 127 BB
UTG: 98 BB
UTG+1: 111.5 BB
MP: 156.5 BB
MP+1: 100 BB
MP+2: 100.5 BB
CO: 65 BB
BTN: 103 BB
Hero (SB): 99 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ A♥

UTG raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 7 BB, fold, UTG calls 3 BB

Flop: (15 BB, 2 players) J♥ A♠ 4♣
Hero bets 11 BB, UTG calls 11 BB

Turn: (37 BB, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 20 BB, UTG raises to 80 BB and is all-in, fold

UTG wins 74.5 BB


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Good fold.
I cannot imagine a hand that you beat that would play like that.
Your best hope of outdrawing a made hand is a ten - 4 outs

As far as I can tell, you played the hand well.

There are a lot of hands that could overbet the pot here: AK as you mentioned, but also KK, QJ KJ 44 and maybe some bluffs, but without reads, you pretty much must fold.


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arthurbentley
Joined: 12.10.2010

What are you trying to achieve by min 3/betting AQ off from the small blind preflop?


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najtreg12
Joined: 25.06.2009

In my experience, 4x open is either very strong or a fish.
9 handed I would just call preflop, although fold is probably fine as well.

If you like to raise, raise more.

As played, flop sizing could be smaller and turn bet/fold is fine.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by najtreg12
In my experience, 4x open is either very strong or a fish.
9 handed I would just call preflop, although fold is probably fine as well.

Or perhaps very old :)
When I first started to play NLHE online, 4x was the standard opening raise size advised in most beginner strategy articles.
Even the "How to play before the flop" Big-Stack Strategy article on PokerStrategy.com still has the recommendation. Considering the tight opening ranges suggested for beginners, it might still be not a bad idea.

The rationale is that this reduces the pot odds for subsequent players.

I'm a bit surprised to see 4x opening raise size on PokerStars -- but I don't play hold'em there hardly ever.
On GGPoker though, I see it frequently, esp from UTG and the blinds.

It does show strength, and it also reflects the fact that on GGPoker so many players are calling far too widely.

Cheers,
VS


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