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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Mp3 unknown (6 hand, 67/67). BB plays 320 hands, 11/9, 3Bet 3.1, 4bet 0, wonsd 67. I think a little bit because Mp3 isolated raise too much so maybe has QQ++ or AK. And Mp who is nit push so i guess BB range here most of time start 1010++ and AQo+. What is best way pre flop, 3Bet about this size or more, less? Or 3bet push all in? Could call worse hand than KK 200 BB deep this limit? I see lot of times can call pre flop or post flop too not just a 1 or 2nd nuts 200 BB or more deeper. I know some players fold here KK but i can't let KK against unknown.

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Hero (SB): $2.36 (118 bb)
BB: $0.73 (36.5 bb)
UTG+1: $1.33 (66.5 bb)
UTG+2: $2.59 (129.5 bb)
MP1: $1.73 (86.5 bb)
MP2: $1.54 (77 bb)
MP3: $3.99 (199.5 bb)
CO: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
BTN: $2.88 (144 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♦: K♣:
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BB raises to $0.73 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds, MP3 raises to $3.99 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.76 and is all-in

Flop: ($5.47) A♠: 5♣: T♥: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($5.47) 4♠: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($5.47) 8♥: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

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Results: $5.47 pot ($0.19 rake)
Final Board: A♠: 5♣: T♥: 4♠: 8♥:
Hero showed K♦: K♣: and won $5.28 ($2.92 net)
BB showed Q♦: Q♥: and lost (-$0.73 net)
MP3 showed 5♥: K♥: and lost (-$2.36 net)


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kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

So you ask if you have to call all in with 118 bb on 2nl. This sounds absurd to me, your hand is fine and i don't see anything difficult it it


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
What is best way pre flop, 3Bet about this size or more, less? Or 3bet push all in? Could call worse hand than KK 200 BB deep this limit? I see lot of times can call pre flop or post flop too not just a 1 or 2nd nuts 200 BB or more deeper. I know some players fold here KK but i can't let KK against unknown.

I don't know of anyone who could fold KK pre-flop with nice deep effective stacks and 40BB dead money in the pot.
IMO nice hand, well played


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kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

Originally posted by ToddBrunson
Mp3 unknown (6 hand, 67/67). BB plays 320 hands, 11/9, 3Bet 3.1, 4bet 0, wonsd 67. I think a little bit because Mp3 isolated raise too much so maybe has QQ++ or AK. And Mp who is nit push so i guess BB range here most of time start 1010++ and AQo+. What is best way pre flop, 3Bet about this size or more, less? Or 3bet push all in? Could call worse hand than KK 200 BB deep this limit? I see lot of times can call pre flop or post flop too not just a 1 or 2nd nuts 200 BB or more deeper. I know some players fold here KK but i can't let KK against unknown.

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Hero (SB): $2.36 (118 bb)
BB: $0.73 (36.5 bb)
UTG+1: $1.33 (66.5 bb)
UTG+2: $2.59 (129.5 bb)
MP1: $1.73 (86.5 bb)
MP2: $1.54 (77 bb)
MP3: $3.99 (199.5 bb)
CO: $2.11 (105.5 bb)
BTN: $2.88 (144 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K♦: K♣:
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, BB raises to $0.73 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds, MP3 raises to $3.99 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.76 and is all-in

Flop: ($5.47) A♠: 5♣: T♥: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($5.47) 4♠: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($5.47) 8♥: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

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Results: $5.47 pot ($0.19 rake)
Final Board: A♠: 5♣: T♥: 4♠: 8♥:
Hero showed K♦: K♣: and won $5.28 ($2.92 net)
BB showed Q♦: Q♥: and lost (-$0.73 net)
MP3 showed 5♥: K♥: and lost (-$2.36 net)

About the other questions... sizing preflop can be more i think but somewhere around 0.60-0.70. your stack is 118 bb, you've already made a 3 bet and obviously mp is isolating so i would call with ak, not sure about qq


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

So you fold QQ because Mp3 isolated 8 BB? And AK 3bet and mp 4bet push you fold?
Anyone else what would you play here if hero had JJ-1010, or AK, QQ. And enough to call here some middle pocket pairs 77-99 and AQs?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Multi way all-in with AK isn't to great ether. Off course less change to be dominated against KK+, but I don't think I can fold QQ in a NL2 game or the biggest stack is a tightisch player.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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ToddBrunson
Joined: 23.05.2010

Yes at least call pre QQ and i guess call too JJ, AQs, maybe even 1010 too.


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