KK Overpair vs turn raise

Originally posted by TheDudeRoyale
I could have checked the turn but didn't want to give out freecards. Only hands I'm really worried about are sets and the occasional QT. However, I'm not sure what villain could bluff here so I found this to be a tricky spot.

It would be good to have some idea of how CO behaves.
You block straight draws somewhat, but flush draws are possible bluff hands here.

I'm not folding KK here, but there are lot of rivers you don't want to see.

I really want to hear what the experts have to say in this one!

Without any info I would play the hand the same way. After villains raise you need to have a idea how villain is playing. I don't expect a random villain could over play top pair with a raise and I would most likely fold.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Would it be possible that aggression comes from the CO having something like AJo or an ace-high flush draw (on the turn)?

Calling with backdoor outs and 2 over cards on flop seems funky.
Raising with a draw with 1 card to come seems really bad, but is possible against a random villain.

Without info u should call top two pairs or better

My experience is that 1 pair is almost never enough against a post flop raise on NL5.
Besides some crazy fish that does this with JJ or something.
And most of the time, even 2 pair won't be enough.

I started to just fold everything lower than trips to raises post flop and my winrate more than doubled.

Yes, it can be exploited. No, it won't be exploited on nl5

Originally posted by marcvz
My experience is that 1 pair is almost never enough against a post flop raise on NL5.
Besides some crazy fish that does this with JJ or something.
And most of the time, even 2 pair won't be enough.

I started to just fold everything lower than trips to raises post flop and my winrate more than doubled.

Yes, it can be exploited. No, it won't be exploited on nl5

"Big hands for big pots"
I think a lot depends on who is doing the raising, and what my equity is, and what the effective stacks are.
I'll call with a 12- or 15-out draw with decent implied odds.
On the other hand, I'll fold vs a raise from a player with a short stack, since you often don't even have pot odds to make the call.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by marcvz
My experience is that 1 pair is almost never enough against a post flop raise on NL5.
Besides some crazy fish that does this with JJ or something.
And most of the time, even 2 pair won't be enough.

I started to just fold everything lower than trips to raises post flop and my winrate more than doubled.

Yes, it can be exploited. No, it won't be exploited on nl5

"Big hands for big pots"
I think a lot depends on who is doing the raising, and what my equity is, and what the effective stacks are.
I'll call with a 12- or 15-out draw with decent implied odds.
On the other hand, I'll fold vs a raise from a player with a short stack, since you often don't even have pot odds to make the call.

Yeah, sure. If you simply get the odds with a draw to call. You call.
I didnt have draws in mind when I wrote that comment. But overfolding 1 & 2 pair hands to a post flop raise has increased my winrate by a lot.