Streak on some bad beats

I moved your post to the Hand Discussion board, since it discussing hands.

I recommend posting one hand at a time, and running them through a hand converter first.
If you use PokerTracker4 or Holdem Manager, then they'll work just fine.

If not, do an internet search for "poker hand converter" and you'll find a few that will work well.

Best of luck :gl:,
VS

OK thanks

888Poker, $0.90 + $0.09 - Hold'em No Limit - 1,250/2,500 (250 ante) - 8 players

kingkong207 (UTG): 53,478 (21 bb)
WolfSpitz (UTG+1): 41,804 (17 bb)
Brund0 (MP): 27,950 (11 bb)
llxandell (MP+1): 17,009 (7 bb)
L00neyToon (CO): 34,950 (14 bb)
JohnSmith83 (BU): 60,800 (24 bb)
Thevillain36 (SB): 90,652 (36 bb)
CylonUA (BB): 29,090 (12 bb)

Pre-Flop: (5,750) Hero (L00neyToon) is CO with A♠ A♣
kingkong207 (UTG) raises to 6,250, 3 players fold, L00neyToon (CO) 3-bets to 15,000, 3 players fold, kingkong207 (UTG) calls 8,750

Flop: (35,750) 4♥ Q♠ 7♦ (2 players)
kingkong207 (UTG) checks, L00neyToon (CO) bets 19,700 (all-in), kingkong207 (UTG) calls 19,700

Turn: (75,150) J♣ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (75,150) 5♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 75,150

Showdown:
L00neyToon (CO) shows A♠ A♣ (a pair of Aces)
(- Pre-Flop: 81%, Flop: 9%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

kingkong207 (UTG) shows 7♣ 7♥ (three of a kind, Sevens)
(- Pre-Flop: 19%, Flop: 91%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

kingkong207 (UTG) wins 75,150

It does not stop!!!

Pretty standard hands most of the time.
AQs hand I would play the same.

AKs I would just Cbet the flop and shove the turn for value at a micro tournament against a unknown.

AQo I would play the same.

AA would be a shove pre-flop for 8bb, but even a min raise isn't to bad. Would be exploitable on higher limits, Flop is off course a shove Cbet with less than a pot size bet left.

2nd AA hand would be a 3bet shove for me with a 14bb stack, but even than 77 would most likely called here.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Again:

888Poker, $0.45 + $0.05 - Hold'em No Limit - 200/400 (50 ante) - 8 players

persha7 (UTG): 2,600 (7 bb)
JP...1 (UTG+1): 11,848 (30 bb)
L00neyToon (MP): 7,577 (19 bb)
Scandal09 (MP+1): 3,530 (9 bb)
Pkrlovinldy (CO): 10,048 (25 bb)
PappSZA (BU): 5,106 (13 bb)
FeelGoodInc. (SB): 10,386 (26 bb)
Andersen87 (BB): 17,093 (43 bb)

Pre-Flop: (1,000) Hero (L00neyToon) is MP with K♥ A♥
2 players fold, L00neyToon (MP) calls 400, 1 fold, Pkrlovinldy (CO) raises to 1,200, 1 fold, FeelGoodInc. (SB) calls 1,000, 1 fold, L00neyToon (MP) 3-bets to 7,527 (all-in), Pkrlovinldy (CO) 4-bets to 9,998 (all-in), 1 fold

Flop: (17,054) 6♥ J♥ 3♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (17,054) Q♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (17,054) 2♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 17,054

Showdown:
Pkrlovinldy (CO) shows Q♣ A♦ (a pair of Queens)
- Pre-Flop: 24%, Flop: 8%, Turn: 66%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (MP) shows K♥ A♥ (high card, Ace)
- Pre-Flop: 76%, Flop: 92%, Turn: 34%, River: 0%)

Pkrlovinldy (CO) wins 17,054

Raise pre and 4bet shove

More atrocities:

888Poker, $0.90 + $0.09 - Hold'em No Limit - 50/100 (10 ante) - 8 players

FuDeReTuTi (UTG): 1,684 (17 bb)
L00neyToon (UTG+1): 1,977 (20 bb)
Toxa1204 (MP): 5,108 (51 bb)
Biggblue (MP+1): 2,508 (25 bb)
moonracker (CO): 1,490 (15 bb)
c0nstant1n (BU): 1,749 (17 bb)
Juve357 (SB): 3,890 (39 bb)
OLIMARWOLF (BB): 3,679 (37 bb)

Pre-Flop: (230) Hero (L00neyToon) is UTG+1 with J♠ A♥
1 fold, L00neyToon (UTG+1) raises to 200, Toxa1204 (MP) calls 200, 2 players fold, c0nstant1n (BU) calls 200, 1 fold, OLIMARWOLF (BB) calls 100

Flop: (930) 8♦ A♣ 6♣ (4 players)
OLIMARWOLF (BB) checks, L00neyToon (UTG+1) bets 500, Toxa1204 (MP) folds, c0nstant1n (BU) raises to 1,539 (all-in), OLIMARWOLF (BB) folds, L00neyToon (UTG+1) calls 1,039

Turn: (4,008) 9♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (4,008) Q♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 4,008

Showdown:
c0nstant1n (BU) shows Q♥ 8♥ (two pair, Queens and Eights)
(- Pre-Flop: 39%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 11%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (UTG+1) shows J♠ A♥ (a pair of Aces)
( - Pre-Flop: 61%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 89%, River: 0%)

c0nstant1n (BU) wins 4,008

I don't want to scare players with strong hand so I'm not so fond of 4 betting.

Originally posted by LoonyToon
I don't want to scare players with strong hand so I'm not so fond of 4 betting.

With 20BB the only way to play this last hand the J♠:A♥: is to jam the flop.
Some will suggest that with only 20BB left, shoving pre-flop is best, but min-raising from EP just gives everybody behind you great odds to call with hands as bad as a Suited Q
In fact you do want to scare players that have strong hands.
That way they fold, and you collect the blinds plus any other money in the pot.

If I'm way off base here, others will correct me I'm sure.

AKs is a min raise/shove pre-flop. No need to slow play it. You don't want to end in a multi way pot and miss the flop.

AJo I would play the same. I never over shove the flop.

Yeah guys okay but still ... again going into a hand with favorite all the time, today again nothing only bad beats look at this shit:

888Poker Snap, $0.91 + $0.09 - Hold'em No Limit - 75/150 (20 ante) - 9 players

L00neyToon (UTG): 2,541 (17 bb)
LUISRGL (UTG+1): 11,676 (78 bb)
cutezatorul (MP): 14,170 (94 bb)
gamlehat (MP+1): 6,074 (40 bb)
honesy1979 (LP): 12,900 (86 bb)
JaleteQuatro (CO): 5,238 (35 bb)
gabbo64 (BU): 2,487 (17 bb)
cristiarad1 (SB): 3,672 (24 bb)
RajKumar11 (BB): 3,000 (20 bb)

Pre-Flop: (405) Hero (L00neyToon) is UTG with K♦ K♣
L00neyToon (UTG) calls 150, 5 players fold, gabbo64 (BU) calls 150, cristiarad1 (SB) calls 75, RajKumar11 (BB) checks

Flop: (780) 2♠ J♦ K♠ (4 players)
cristiarad1 (SB) checks, RajKumar11 (BB) checks, L00neyToon (UTG) checks, gabbo64 (BU) bets 257, cristiarad1 (SB) raises to 771, RajKumar11 (BB) folds, L00neyToon (UTG) calls 771, gabbo64 (BU) folds

Turn: (2,579) Q♠ (2 players)
cristiarad1 (SB) bets 2,731 (all-in), L00neyToon (UTG) calls 1,600 (all-in)

River: (5,779) 7♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 5,779

Showdown:
cristiarad1 (SB) shows 9♠ T♥ (a straight, Nine to King)
- Pre-Flop: 18%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 77%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (UTG) shows K♦ K♣ (three of a kind, Kings)
( - Pre-Flop: 82%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 23%, River: 0%)

cristiarad1 (SB) wins 5,779

888Poker Snap, $0.91 + $0.09 - Hold'em No Limit - 100/200 (25 ante) - 9 players

Jethro1971 (UTG): 3,496 (17 bb)
salako777 (UTG+1): 11,934 (60 bb)
AstroTorres (MP): 9,200 (46 bb)
royboy125 (MP+1): 2,700 (14 bb)
SahaStar (LP): 18,919 (95 bb)
baZZarnov (CO): 2,989 (15 bb)
AnetUKR (BU): 17,662 (88 bb)
L00neyToon (SB): 5,770 (29 bb)
rackstraw49 (BB): 25,346 (127 bb)

Pre-Flop: (525) Hero (L00neyToon) is SB with K♦ Q♠
7 players fold, L00neyToon (SB) raises to 400, rackstraw49 (BB) calls 200

Flop: (1,025) 7♦ 3♠ K♠ (2 players)
L00neyToon (SB) bets 600, rackstraw49 (BB) calls 600

Turn: (2,225) 3♦ (2 players)
L00neyToon (SB) bets 1,400, rackstraw49 (BB) calls 1,400

River: (5,025) 5♥ (2 players)
L00neyToon (SB) bets 2,200, rackstraw49 (BB) raises to 22,921 (all-in), L00neyToon (SB) calls 1,145 (all-in)

Total pot: 11,715

Showdown:
rackstraw49 (BB) shows 2♠ 3♥ (three of a kind, Threes)
- Pre-Flop: 34%, Flop: 18%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (SB) shows K♦ Q♠ (two pair, Kings and Threes)
( - Pre-Flop: 66%, Flop: 82%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

rackstraw49 (BB) wins 11,715

888Poker, $0.45 + $0.05 - Hold'em No Limit - 75/150 (15 ante) - 9 players

Lumpmaster1 (UTG): 4,845 (32 bb)
Samalala (UTG+1): 5,123 (34 bb)
RafaelBranco (MP): 6,046 (40 bb)
Cindy872 (MP+1): 10,103 (67 bb)
Kingirish989 (LP): 4,247 (28 bb)
Have.a.look (CO): 5,710 (38 bb)
nzog8 (BU): 3,794 (25 bb)
dougschmart (SB): 7,725 (52 bb)
L00neyToon (BB): 4,540 (30 bb)

Pre-Flop: (360) Hero (L00neyToon) is BB with T♦ T♥
1 fold, Samalala (UTG+1) raises to 450, 1 fold, Cindy872 (MP+1) 3-bets to 10,088 (all-in), 4 players fold, L00neyToon (BB) calls 4,375 (all-in), 1 fold

Flop: (9,710) K♣ J♠ 6♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (9,710) 3♦ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (9,710) Q♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 9,710

Showdown:
Cindy872 (MP+1) shows A♦ Q♥ (a pair of Queens)
- Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 30%, Turn: 18%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (BB) shows T♦ T♥ (a pair of Tens)
(- Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 70%, Turn: 82%, River: 0%)

Cindy872 (MP+1) wins 9,710

TBH I'm thinking of withradwing my money and that's it. What do you think? Maybe it's better to stop cause I don't even believe this is a variance anymore. It could be but even then it seems better to stop playing.

In the KK hand, with 17 BB, your only sensible option is to shove.
The other two hands I'll let others comment on, since I'm unsure.

If I'm wrong about the KK hand, I'm sure I'll hear about it...

I wouldn't limp the KK, but min raising is a decent option as well. As played the money should be in the middle on the flop. Board is pretty wet already and you playing multi way with top set. Now you get the money in on the turn with the 2nd best hand. No bad beat this time

KQo I would raise a little bit more in the SB like 2,5-3bb. The rest pretty standard, but I would shove the river for thin value. It's to bad villain had trips this time.

TT Kinda standard. Shove of villain is funky with a 67bb stack and I expect she has most likely a capped range. I expect you have most of the time at least a flip here. It's to bad you lost the flip this time.

No bad beats this time. You lose a flip and you get it in with the 2nd best hand twice

Basically you are telling me I did bad play going favorite on every bigger bet. Didn't those people take HUGE risk to win those pots? I limped with KK because otherwise on that table you would get shit if u dont catch them on flop. My cards were in fact best hand, until he hit that saviour queen. Getting that queen was so shitty %.

I mean, guys, for kind of play you are asking me to do I should basically KNOW their cards. Guys ... I can only make calculation for highest value, and I hit it just to be drowned on turn and river with 10-20% chances.

It's also down to play style. You say you would shove those KK's but if you would get fold - you would just get nothing out of those premiums. I went in, got really good hand ... and got suckout again.

I hear you ... I really think you want to help me ... but I cannot predict their hands like I see them. In fact it winds up I'm a BAD PLAYER even tho I go with pretty strong favorites into a showdown .

Maybe you can tell me if this was worth of playing? Again ... again ... favorite ... again ...

888Poker, $0.92 + $0.08 - Hold'em No Limit - 150/300 (40 ante) - 5 players

thali18 (UTG): 7,700 (26 bb)
L00neyToon (CO): 5,665 (19 bb)
Fernandones (BU): 22,908 (76 bb)
Carlos271286 (SB): 31,934 (106 bb)
pavelicax13 (BB): 6,360 (21 bb)

Pre-Flop: (650) Hero (L00neyToon) is CO with Q♥ K♣
1 fold, L00neyToon (CO) calls 300, 2 players fold, pavelicax13 (BB) raises to 6,320 (all-in), L00neyToon (CO) calls 5,325 (all-in)

Flop: (11,600) J♦ 4♥ 3♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (11,600) 6♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (11,600) 7♠ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 11,600

Showdown:
pavelicax13 (BB) shows J♣ 8♣ (a pair of Jacks)
(- Pre-Flop: 36%, Flop: 75%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (CO) shows Q♥ K♣ (high card, King)
- Pre-Flop: 64%, Flop: 25%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)

pavelicax13 (BB) wins 11,600

It doesn't matter that you go in with the best hand.
What matters is that you make money.

Originally posted by LoonyToon
Pre-Flop: (650) Hero (L00neyToon) is CO with Q♥ K♣
1 fold, L00neyToon (CO) calls 300, 2 players fold, pavelicax13 (BB) raises to 6,320 (all-in), L00neyToon (CO) calls 5,325 (all-in)

Once again, you limp pre-flop with a very short stack.
This allows another player very good odds to play. Not only that but it makes your hand look weak.
For a 19 BB stack it is weak -- possibly even too weak to play at this stack depth.

With a stack that small you want to steal the blinds by shoving -- but QJo is too weak to shove with.

So rule #1 at PokerStrategy.com has always been to play a tight-aggressive style.
Tight means careful hand selection, and aggressive means you bet strongly

How else to make money then to get in with best percentage?

Vorpal, games I play, 1 or 2 USD tournaments, people will call like crazy anyways. In that particular hand I wanted as many people to join with shitty hands. I wanted to look weak cause QK on this tables is almost like AK.

I have new jewel for you:

888Poker, $0.92 + $0.08 - Hold'em No Limit - 40/80 (8 ante) - 9 players

solarsyco12 (UTG): 2,570 (32 bb)
JimPalmer (UTG+1): 18,357 (229 bb)
OITNOTS (MP): 4,528 (57 bb)
revan747 (MP+1): 3,228 (40 bb)
crowface (LP): 2,992 (37 bb)
calmar23 (CO): 7,228 (90 bb)
L00neyToon (BU): 1,821 (23 bb)
paman69 (SB): 3,000 (38 bb)
DukeofDuces (BB): 3,096 (39 bb)

Pre-Flop: (192) Hero (L00neyToon) is BTN with A♠ Q♦
1 fold, JimPalmer (UTG+1) calls 80, OITNOTS (MP) raises to 160, revan747 (MP+1) calls 160, crowface (LP) calls 160, 1 fold, L00neyToon (BU) 3-bets to 1,813 (all-in), 3 players fold, OITNOTS (MP) 4-bets to 3,546, 1 fold, crowface (LP) calls 2,824 (all-in)

Flop: (8,213) 8♣ 6♦ 9♦ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (8,213) 7♦ (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (8,213) 8♥ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 8,213

Showdown:
OITNOTS (MP) shows T♥ A♣ (a straight, Six to Ten)
- Pre-Flop: 22%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 78%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (BU) shows A♠ Q♦ (a pair of Eights)
(- Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 56%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

crowface (LP) shows K♦ Q♥ (a pair of Eights)
(- Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 21%, River: 0%)

OITNOTS (MP) wins 8,213

Want to see more? 9% =D

888Poker, $0.92 + $0.08 - Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (12 ante) - 8 players

DukeofDuces (UTG): 1,606 (13 bb)
solarsyco12 (UTG+1): 2,092 (17 bb)
JimPalmer (MP): 16,059 (134 bb)
OITNOTS (MP+1): 14,819 (123 bb)
crowface (CO): 3,715 (31 bb)
crowepoker2 (BU): 2,960 (25 bb)
L00neyToon (SB): 2,330 (19 bb)
paman69 (BB): 3,349 (28 bb)

Pre-Flop: (276) Hero (L00neyToon) is SB with 5♠ Q♠
5 players fold, crowepoker2 (BU) calls 120, L00neyToon (SB) calls 60, paman69 (BB) checks

Flop: (456) 4♠ 8♠ 4♦ (3 players)
L00neyToon (SB) checks, paman69 (BB) bets 228, crowepoker2 (BU) calls 228, L00neyToon (SB) raises to 2,198 (all-in), paman69 (BB) folds, crowepoker2 (BU) calls 1,970

Turn: (5,080) 2♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (5,080) 8♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 5,080

Showdown:
L00neyToon (SB) shows 5♠ Q♠ (a flush, Queen high)
( Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 43%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

crowepoker2 (BU) shows 7♦ 8♣ (a full house, Eights full of Fours)
( - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

crowepoker2 (BU) wins 5,080

U can keep on ranting (not sure if u came in here for that or to get some critical feedback)

In your shoes ...I would really start listing to those guys who answered to ur hands here otherwise your "streak" will go on. (not saying that it will stop immediatly the other way)

Originally posted by LoonyToon
How else to make money then to get in with best percentage?

Vorpal, games I play, 1 or 2 USD tournaments, people will call like crazy anyways. In that particular hand I wanted as many people to join with shitty hands. I wanted to look weak cause QK on this tables is almost like AK.

I have new jewel for you:

888Poker, $0.92 + $0.08 - Hold'em No Limit - 40/80 (8 ante) - 9 players

solarsyco12 (UTG): 2,570 (32 bb)
JimPalmer (UTG+1): 18,357 (229 bb)
OITNOTS (MP): 4,528 (57 bb)
revan747 (MP+1): 3,228 (40 bb)
crowface (LP): 2,992 (37 bb)
calmar23 (CO): 7,228 (90 bb)
L00neyToon (BU): 1,821 (23 bb)
paman69 (SB): 3,000 (38 bb)
DukeofDuces (BB): 3,096 (39 bb)

Pre-Flop: (192) Hero (L00neyToon) is BTN with A♠ Q♦
1 fold, JimPalmer (UTG+1) calls 80, OITNOTS (MP) raises to 160, revan747 (MP+1) calls 160, crowface (LP) calls 160, 1 fold, L00neyToon (BU) 3-bets to 1,813 (all-in), 3 players fold, OITNOTS (MP) 4-bets to 3,546, 1 fold, crowface (LP) calls 2,824 (all-in)

Flop: (8,213) 8♣ 6♦ 9♦ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (8,213) 7♦ (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (8,213) 8♥ (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: 8,213

Showdown:
OITNOTS (MP) shows T♥ A♣ (a straight, Six to Ten)
- Pre-Flop: 22%, Flop: 27%, Turn: 78%, River: 100%)

L00neyToon (BU) shows A♠ Q♦ (a pair of Eights)
(- Pre-Flop: 52%, Flop: 56%, Turn: 2%, River: 0%)

crowface (LP) shows K♦ Q♥ (a pair of Eights)
(- Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 21%, River: 0%)

OITNOTS (MP) wins 8,213

Just a unlucky hand

Originally posted by LoonyToon
Want to see more? 9% =D

888Poker, $0.92 + $0.08 - Hold'em No Limit - 60/120 (12 ante) - 8 players

DukeofDuces (UTG): 1,606 (13 bb)
solarsyco12 (UTG+1): 2,092 (17 bb)
JimPalmer (MP): 16,059 (134 bb)
OITNOTS (MP+1): 14,819 (123 bb)
crowface (CO): 3,715 (31 bb)
crowepoker2 (BU): 2,960 (25 bb)
L00neyToon (SB): 2,330 (19 bb)
paman69 (BB): 3,349 (28 bb)

Pre-Flop: (276) Hero (L00neyToon) is SB with 5♠ Q♠
5 players fold, crowepoker2 (BU) calls 120, L00neyToon (SB) calls 60, paman69 (BB) checks

Flop: (456) 4♠ 8♠ 4♦ (3 players)
L00neyToon (SB) checks, paman69 (BB) bets 228, crowepoker2 (BU) calls 228, L00neyToon (SB) raises to 2,198 (all-in), paman69 (BB) folds, crowepoker2 (BU) calls 1,970

Turn: (5,080) 2♠ (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (5,080) 8♦ (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: 5,080

Showdown:
L00neyToon (SB) shows 5♠ Q♠ (a flush, Queen high)
( Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 43%, Turn: 91%, River: 0%)

crowepoker2 (BU) shows 7♦ 8♣ (a full house, Eights full of Fours)
( - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 57%, Turn: 9%, River: 100%)

crowepoker2 (BU) wins 5,080

Pretty much a flip when the money is going in. You had 43% equity on flop.
You could also just call the flop and her-evaluete the turn multi way, but your line isn't to bad ether. My line is a little bit less variance heavy.