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ATo what river Action?

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010
Is there Value OTR?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.00
SB: $1.90
BB: $1.67
UTG: $2.56
UTG+1: $1.51
MP: $2.03
MP+1: $2.00
Hero (MP+2): $2.38
CO: $2.21

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A♥:T♠:

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, fold, fold, SB calls $0.03, BB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.16, 4 players) 4♣:4♠:9♠:
SB checks, BB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.16, 4 players) J♥:
SB checks, BB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets $0.05, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.05

River: ($0.26, 2 players) 6♣:
MP+1 checks, Hero ???

Does the stab OTT make sense?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Pre-flop I would consider to 3bet ATo with the ace blocker to like 12-15c, but is a little bit villain depended. As played I would just check it down with ace high. Tough to get value or get a better hand to fold against 3 villains. If I would bet i would make it at least half pot and than you need to bluff the river as well and I don't think that's to profitable on NL2.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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wickus
Joined: 31.03.2006

Would go with the 3bet preflop.
Played like this I would have preferred the bet already on the flop. If both blinds had fold there, I would have done another bet on the turn. But playing this level myself at the moment I don't see a good chance to get so many people out.
Basically I think a check down would have been better here.


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I would think this is a fold pre maybe 3bet from this position fr as played the stab doesn't make much sense mw our equity didn't improve but as played likely just bet river again to try and fold out 9x hands.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
I would think this is a fold pre maybe 3bet from this position fr as played the stab doesn't make much sense mw our equity didn't improve but as played likely just bet river again to try and fold out 9x hands.

When I looked it up after I was surprised that ATo isn't a call pre, but it isn't in the starting hands chart I use.

As it turns out, I did bet the river again, and got called...
by K♦:Q♦:


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
I would think this is a fold pre maybe 3bet from this position fr as played the stab doesn't make much sense mw our equity didn't improve but as played likely just bet river again to try and fold out 9x hands.

When I looked it up after I was surprised that ATo isn't a call pre, but it isn't in the starting hands chart I use.

As it turns out, I did bet the river again, and got called...
by K♦:Q♦:

Really strange call what size did you make it ? that should be a really easy fold for villain.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

IIRC it was about 1/3 pot


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The turn and river sizing doesn't make that much sense for us to have say AJ KJ we likely bet a bit bigger for value but ye i still don't know what villains up to calling with KQ maybe they just got curious.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Solid value bluff on river! :)

But yeah preflop should likely be 3bet or fold and postflop just check with some showdown value.


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wickus
Joined: 31.03.2006

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
IIRC it was about 1/3 pot

It is sometimes amazing what hands coming up at the end. Yesterday I saw a bluff allin on the river with 43s busted flush draw nothing else hit.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
I would think this is a fold pre maybe 3bet from this position fr as played the stab doesn't make much sense mw our equity didn't improve but as played likely just bet river again to try and fold out 9x hands.

When I looked it up after I was surprised that ATo isn't a call pre, but it isn't in the starting hands chart I use.

As it turns out, I did bet the river again, and got called...
by K♦:Q♦:

Optimistic call of villain:f_love:


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