Hey guys,
How should I approach these spots in GGPoker. I sometimes go all in with A2C just because I saw some winning player doing it so but I don't really understand the logic or math behind these pots where we have 10+ extra bbs in the pot. Could somebody explain them to me? I have been searching for info but cant find any related.
Thanks
Hi RoccoJustice,
These are a bit of a puzzle.
A lot depends on the size of the splash.
Think about it, if there are 4 people in the pot already, and you enter the pot that's 5
5 random hands is 20% equity each.
So if your hand has better than that go for it.
This is a good spot to play with Equilab a bit...
Any pocket pair, and any 2 broadways:
Equity Win Tie
MP2 17.50% 16.49% 1.01% { random }
MP3 17.51% 16.50% 1.01% { random }
CO 17.51% 16.50% 1.01% { random }
BU 17.51% 16.50% 1.01% { random }
SB 29.97% 29.09% 0.88% { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Removing the weaker broadways, and the lowest 6 ranks of pocket pairs:
Equity Win Tie
MP2 16.73% 15.78% 0.96% { random }
MP3 16.72% 15.77% 0.96% { random }
CO 16.73% 15.78% 0.96% { random }
BU 16.73% 15.78% 0.95% { random }
SB 33.08% 32.17% 0.91% { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+ }
If you don't have it already, Equilab is a free offering to PokerStrategy.com members. (There's a paid version as well)
BTW, these ranges are just playing around -- put your own ideas in and see what comes out.
Then compare those equities with the pot odds you get with various sized splashes.
There may indeed be situations where ATC is an all-in.
Best of luck :gl:,
VS
I wonder about this too. Like, I just played this hand.
GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 263.88 BB
SB: 132.36 BB
Hero (BB): 100.6 BB
UTG: 195.88 BB
MP: 92.48 BB
CO: 154.96 BB
10 BBadded to pot
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 11.4 BB) Hero has K♠ Q♠
fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO raises to 154.96 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold
CO wins 12.76 BB
Was I supposed to call that? I would've hit a Queen(Top Pair) on flop with BFD with rooms to improve.
Someone came into my thread before told me that I'm not risking my entire stack if I shoved, that's not true though right?
GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
Hero (BTN): 153.2 BB
SB: 269 BB
BB: 94.08 BB
UTG: 111.88 BB
MP: 123.56 BB
CO: 160.76 BB
10 BBadded to pot
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 11.4 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♦
fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 153.2 BB and is all-in, fold, fold
Hero wins 11.8 BB
This one is a no brainer right?
Offcourse you risk your entire stack with shoving. KQs is playing well post-flop, but I wouldn't stack off with it for 100bb effective.
QQ is a +ev shove, but I prefer to raise the normal way. That's more +ev. Now you win most of the time the blinds and if you get called you lose a decent amount of the time as well.
Cheers,
SDK1987
In the KQs hand, in a splash pot, you are going for the 11BB splash
Knowing who you're up against would help.
If he is doing this with:
the top 25% you're flipping
Equity Win Tie
CO 47.59% 45.44% 2.15% { 66+, A2s+, K6s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T8s+, A7o+, K9o+, QTo+, JTo }
BB 52.41% 50.26% 2.15% { KQs }
against top 10% it is the bad end of the flip, but still OK
Equity Win Tie
CO 57.52% 53.43% 4.09% { 77+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
BB 42.48% 38.39% 4.09% { KQs }
If — as I suspect — he's doing this with a wide range hoping to just grab the pot, you're a favourite:
Equity Win Tie
CO 40.06% 38.65% 1.41% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K2o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o }
BB 59.94% 58.52% 1.41% { KQs }
I'm calling this all day at NL 5, maybe not so much at NL 25
