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KQo 2 overcard oesd vs allin on flop

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wickus
Joined: 31.03.2006

I am still unsure what to do in these spots, sometimes they have a monster, sometimes it is for example 88 or 77...
I assume the fold was too weak.

888Poker Snap, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG: $3.19 (160 bb)
MP: $2.00 (100 bb)
CO (Hero): $2.00 (100 bb)
BU: $0.58 (29 bb)
SB: $2.00 (100 bb)
BB: $0.90 (45 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with Q K
UTG raises to $0.06, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $0.18, 2 players fold, BB calls $0.16, UTG calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.55) J 8 T (3 players)
BB bets $0.72 (all-in), UTG folds, CO (Hero) folds

Total pot: $0.55 (Rake: $0.03)
BB wins $0.52


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

OTF you have an open-ender, but there aren't any implied odds once UTG folds, and you don't have pot odds to call, so for that reason alone its a fold.

BTW, is this a 3Bet/fold pre-flop?
I don't generally play KQ vs a raise from UTG, but it's close.
The hand is dominated by a UTG opening range

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    55.49%  52.20%   3.29% { 55+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, AJo+, KQo }
CO     44.51%  41.22%   3.29% { KQo }

And if UTG is known to be a bit tighter, you could eliminate the suited connectors ...

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    59.87%  55.79%   4.08% { 55+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
CO     40.13%  36.05%   4.08% { KQo }

OTOH, if he's know to be overly loose, the 3Bet is find -- but do you 3Bet fold if he 4Bets?


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Originally posted by VorpalF2F
OTF you have an open-ender, but there aren't any implied odds once UTG folds, and you don't have pot odds to call, so for that reason alone its a fold.

BTW, is this a 3Bet/fold pre-flop?
I don't generally play KQ vs a raise from UTG, but it's close.
The hand is dominated by a UTG opening range

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    55.49%  52.20%   3.29% { 55+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T8s+, 97s+, 87s, 76s, AJo+, KQo }
CO     44.51%  41.22%   3.29% { KQo }

And if UTG is known to be a bit tighter, you could eliminate the suited connectors ...

       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG    59.87%  55.79%   4.08% { 55+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, AJo+, KQo }
CO     40.13%  36.05%   4.08% { KQo }

OTOH, if he's know to be overly loose, the 3Bet is find -- but do you 3Bet fold if he 4Bets?

do you get odds to call if both overs are live ? there is a good chance they are so i might call because of that.Although its not good that utg is still to act and come back over the top but then we would be committed to call off vs utg as well.


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wickus
Joined: 31.03.2006

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
OTF you have an open-ender, but there aren't any implied odds once UTG folds, and you don't have pot odds to call, so for that reason alone its a fold.

BTW, is this a 3Bet/fold pre-flop?

Yes a fold seems to be a good option on the raise. Had it in the past days that they just fold after a reraise.
Should have run Equilab myself a bit more often on my hands review. ;)


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