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[Closed] NL25 QQ OESD flop

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awishformore
Joined: 16.06.2007

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

$0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

Known players:
[tg]MP2$24.95:///////;MP3$5.00:///////;CO$25.32:///////;BU(Hero)$43.81:///////;SB$35.62:///////;BB$32.66:///////;MP1$5.00:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:h, Q:s.
MP1 raises to $1, MP2 calls $1.00, MP3 calls $1.00, CO folds, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, MP1 calls $4.00(All-In), MP2 calls $4.00, MP3 calls $4.00(All-In).

Flop: ($20.35) K:h, T:c, J:c (4 players)
MP2 bets $6.75, Hero raises to $38.81(All-In), MP2 calls $13.20(All-In).

Turn: ($79.11) A:h (4 players)

River: ($79.11) 9:s (4 players)

Final Pot: $79.11.

It's really hard to put MP2 on a range. I'd actually go 22-TT maybe JJ, AK and KQ. If I think he is capable of playing AA or KK that way, I don't have the necessary equity for my OESD anymore, and the lower pairs are more improbable than most other hands, so should this be a fold on the flop?


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BogdanDin7
Joined: 29.04.2008

I would give myself about 9 outs here as average value. The pot being 20$ already and MP2 having 20 left you need only 33% equity and I think you have it vs his range which I`m guessing looks something like

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 36.460 % 31.749 % 9.421 % 58.829 % QsQh
Player 2: 63.540 % 58.829 % 9.421 % 31.749 % KK+, JJ-99, AQs+, KQs, QJs, Qc2c, 6c5c, AQo+, KQo, QJo


awishformore
Joined: 16.06.2007

Well, I don't think his range is this loose here. Also, I have a read about him now (which I didn't have previously, I've seen him do it frequently now, though): he cold-calls short-stack raises with QQ+. Taking that into consideration, I think the equity would be somewhat around 25% and it's a fold. Still, I guess a shove was OK in order to get that read.


Talic
Joined: 04.01.2008

well Im def. not folding :)

I prefer shove on flop but call is very ok also and go broke on A or 9