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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

ChipEV/Trny — How Critical is This Stat?

It is a custom stat defined as amt_expected_won/number of tourneys

This is the definition of amount_expected_won:

Amount of chips won when adjusting all-in pots. In those pots instead of attributing real results, this statistic attributes to the player the equity they had in the pot at the time of the all in. Pots where players call the all-in bet or raise but later fold (hence their cards are not known) are not adjusted.

 Chips  Hnds    Net   VPIP    PFR  RoL  RFI   AF   AFq  WTSD %    WSD  chipEV/trny  ROI % 
   800   114  $1.00  53.77  35.42   10   50  5.4  58.7   60.66  45.95          -23     10 

So is this telling me I sucked out?
Is there an ideal value for this stat?

Note that I do know that 10 tournaments isn't a big enough sample size — I'm just trying to understand the stat


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

It's the most accurate stat for 2x - 6x multipliers because in those you are actually playing winner takes all and the prize is not that big for you to adjust your play based on anything other than getting every +cEV decision.

At 10x+ in some sites there is ICM (In stars 10x - 1st gets 8x, second 2x). The higher prize and the complexity of ICM would require for you to stop regging new spins and focus on that one. Also, regardless of whether there is ICM or not, you should try and optimize your winrate on those big multipliers by getting some reads on your opponents and playing lower variance preflop, passing on some small edges.

45 cEV would make you a small long-long-long-term winner but if you want to win consistently at the 3 lowest multipliers on Stars, you will have to get cEV of at least 60. At micros, 100 cEV is achievable. I believe the best high stakes players get around 60 cEV at the highest ones.

Btw, try PLO spins, guys are clueless, starting stacks are 50bb with antes! :f_thumbsup:


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Thanks for the analysis of the stat

Originally posted by nsavov
Btw, try PLO spins, guys are clueless, starting stacks are 50bb with antes! :f_thumbsup:
Good suggestion — assuming I'm not one of the clueless ones... :coolface:


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