You will see the river card no matter what

Easy fold on the turn I think. Villain isn't bluffing and you need to hit the flush or straight to win.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Originally posted by SDK1987
Easy fold on the turn I think. Villain isn't bluffing and you need to hit the flush or straight to win.

Cheers,
SDK1987

To win how many BB?

You need 25% for breakeven call. With nut fd and nut gs you have 20+% equity so there is almost no need for implied odds. Of course sometimes we get flush and board pairs which could mean negative implieds as well. But its just bit too good price to fold. Sure it sucks to call and not hit which is case most of time but that doesnt make fold better. Often most players cant get away from two pairs, set, etc. even in really nasty rivers when pot is already 150bb and there is 40bb behind so we will imo get implied value very often as well.

I dont necessarily hate just raising flop but of course issue is that villain donk betting into empty side pot should have very strong range. Our raise obviously should look super strong at that point to thinking player but...

Originally posted by ghaleon
You need 25% for breakeven call. With nut fd and nut gs you have 20+% equity so there is almost no need for implied odds. Of course sometimes we get flush and board pairs which could mean negative implieds as well. But its just bit too good price to fold. Sure it sucks to call and not hit which is case most of time but that doesnt make fold better. Often most players cant get away from two pairs, set, etc. even in really nasty rivers when pot is already 150bb and there is 40bb behind so we will imo get implied value very often as well.

I dont necessarily hate just raising flop but of course issue is that villain donk betting into empty side pot should have very strong range. Our raise obviously should look super strong at that point to thinking player but...

Yeah, my math on it was that I needed +15% to make the call with IO, and I have at least 20%, but at the same time you will see the river card no matter what so we are in the know.

Nice input, thanks.

Fold preflop. Stack off right on the flop.