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PLO25 AQ54ds bluff river?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

EP is total maniac playing probably over 50% even from UTG. I am not big fan of 3betting these two low sidecard Axxxds hands though. SB has been on tighter side, no specific reads. Flop I cant fold to such small bet. Turn happy to take free card. Would you shove turn if it was J♥: or J♣:?

River comes checked to me and I feel like this is reasonable spot to bluff. EP would likely always play more aggro with any Kx+ at this point. Also SB is potentially capped to AA being his best hand. Not sure if villains are capable of hand reading. But I can definitely have Kx sometimes that doesnt necessarily want to shove flop but cant fold to small cbet and checks turn. Unblocking 89T also good. Have around 24€ behind so bit below pot.

Game #1715558694: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 12:35:45 2022/08/06
Seated players
Seat 1: Sugar_02 (€20.47)
Seat 2: CheesePlays6 (€175.41)
Seat 3: Dimii24 (€52.58)
Seat 4: UberNit (€30.98)
Seat 5: Tommyg91 (€28.03)
Seat 6: Tapoloa (€31.90)
Blinds and button
CheesePlays6 has the button
Sugar_02 posts missed small blind €0.10
Dimii24 posts small blind €0.10
UberNit posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Tapoloa A♥:5♥:Q♣:4♣:
Preflop
Tommyg91 raises €0.85 to €0.85
Tapoloa calls €0.85
Sugar_02 calls €0.85
CheesePlays6 folds
Dimii24 raises €4.40 to €4.50
UberNit folds
Tommyg91 calls €3.65
Tapoloa calls €3.65
Sugar_02 folds
Flop 7♥:K♣:6♦: (14.7€)
Dimii24 bets €3.67
Tommyg91 calls €3.67
Tapoloa calls €3.67
Turn J♦: (25.71€)
Dimii24 checks
Tommyg91 checks
Tapoloa checks
River K♥: (25.71€)
Dimii24 checks
Tommyg91 checks
Tapoloa?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by ghaleon
EP is total maniac playing probably over 50% even from UTG. I am not big fan of 3betting these two low sidecard Axxxds hands though. SB has been on tighter side, no specific reads. Flop I cant fold to such small bet. Turn happy to take free card. Would you shove turn if it was J♥: or J♣:?

River comes checked to me and I feel like this is reasonable spot to bluff. EP would likely always play more aggro with any Kx+ at this point. Also SB is potentially capped to AA being his best hand. Not sure if villains are capable of hand reading. But I can definitely have Kx sometimes that doesnt necessarily want to shove flop but cant fold to small cbet and checks turn. Unblocking 89T also good. Have around 24€ behind so bit below pot.

Is EP also generally quite aggro?
When aggro spewtards suddenly get passive, I suddenly get suspicious.

However, when the board pairs, it is a̶l̶w̶a̶y̶s̶ usually worth a bluff


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

first we have to differ between preflop and postflop maniac: Just because he is involved in a lot of pots that does not mean he is going crazy postflop.

vs 50% EP raising range I would happily 3bet preflop. without reads AQ43d i.e. is a GTO call so I guess it is fine as played.

postflop I like the lines and wont pull the trigger OTR for several reasons:

- 3bet pot, less FE
- 3way instead of HU, less FE
- While the preflop agressor might seems to have aces I think he will call fairly often vs a small bet, that leads to->
- A bigger bet might also not fit to pure trips and our betting pattern doesnt fit for better(we want to bet trips small to get aces to call but pot the boats for max EV)

But as I mentioned in another hand recently: Moving up in stakes the key to success might be to work more on the redline and I wouldnt judge you if you go for it here, resonable thoughts that should justify a bluff, especially with pure A high the EV of bet I can imagine to be higher than of give up.

btw ghaleon do you use HM3 or PT4?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I have PT4 but as I have been playing mainly in Unibet recent years there is no use for it. Well more use in coaching others than my own games actually.

EP was making lot of bluffs postflop and value betting wide as well. Had not seen slowplays really so that is why I didn't expect Kx+ from him almost ever.

Personally I would only use all-in size in this spot. It's actually kind of spot where I either have like KQ/AK or bluff basically. Strong trips comes from preflop range as with whole table behind I won't call that wide even when EP is out of line. Maybe some KT98ds could make sense preflop but that I would be very happy to raise flop.

We can go for iso 3bet pre but this hand is not really that smooth flopping. Also can't remember how actively this guy was 4betting. Probably wasn't crazy on that part but there is always bit of danger they suddenly just decide crappy KK is nuts etc.


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