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PLO100 KK74ss triple barrel river?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Villain seems recreational playing too much hands. I have not seen light calls on river though in triple barrel spots. I think my hand is close to mandatory value bet having straight blocker but what sizing would you use? SPR is 1 on river. Sort of issue with KK is that we block strong two pairs and there is fair chance weaker sets would have played more aggro earlier streets. I could see some point in all options like check, 1/4-1/3 pot or pot. Not big fan of bet-folding though without really good reads.

Game #1761796797: Table €100 PL - 0.50/1.00 - Pot Limit Omaha - 19:25:53 2022/11/01
Seated players
Seat 1: H_Anagihara (€49)
Seat 2: sigboy (€347.17)
Seat 3: Kooomaa (€100.50)
Seat 4: designer_ (€50.40)
Seat 5: Unuyta (€114.47)
Seat 6: zelcy (€178.58)
Blinds and button
zelcy has the button
H_Anagihara posts small blind €0.50
sigboy posts big blind €1
Hole cards
Dealt to Unuyta K♥:7♣:4♥:K♠:
Preflop
Kooomaa folds
designer_ folds
Unuyta raises €3.50 to €3.50
zelcy folds
H_Anagihara calls €3
sigboy calls €2.50
Flop 6♣:8♠:K♣: (10.5€)
H_Anagihara checks
sigboy checks
Unuyta bets €7.87
H_Anagihara folds
sigboy calls €7.87
Turn Q♥: (26.24€)
sigboy checks
Unuyta bets €26.24
sigboy calls €26.24
River 4♦: (78.72€)
sigboy checks
Unuyta bets ?


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PakerFace
Joined: 19.09.2010

I would bet pot otf on this wet/dynamic board. Turn as played. Definitely would 3rd barely the river. We block 7s, there's a slim chance we are beat.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I don't personally pot bet flops in 3way high SPR pots as default. Issue with potting is that price of betting will increase. Our range also have plenty of hands that don't mind weaker sort of draws to continue.

In 4way+ pots I tend to do potting more often. Though theory wise it seems like preferred option would be betting small like 1/4-1/3 pot in this scenarios. Not sure about how well that work in real life versus not so good players.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

River bet size is interesting question because theory wise there is supposed to be decent amount of sets in villain range but I think those are played as x-r flop or turn more often in reality. Also we block Kx two pairs heavily.

We do unblock draws but those are unlikely to give action. Only hope for that is if we bet small and induce x-r. Though I think that rarely happens especially when we bet in position. If we were OOP villain might see it as block bet and attack more often.

If we pot question is do we beat his range clearly enough that it would be better than small bet. For reasons mentioned I would much more prefer to pot like QQ or probably even 88 unblocking Kx two pairs.


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PakerFace
Joined: 19.09.2010

Our hand need a lot of protection on that board and betting the pot otf is a reasonable thing.

By betting 1/4-1/3 we give away a lot of value and we let villains draw cheaply which isn't great in my opinion.

Regarding the river sizing, I think anything in range 50-100% would be fine. Depending on what we want to achieve.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Flop we do not have to bet pot actually. we are supposed to have the highest betting frequeny so sizing it down fits the take-it down from position approach. But we should bet 50% minimum to the possible flush and straightdraws as protection is a thing. I think betting 67-75% is fine.

BB is going to have a more loose and less defined range than SB so the 2-barrel is mandatory with nuts, here we have to bet bigger and potting is fine.

No reason to check-back the river since we are still far ahead against BB´s range and we are likely to get value from lots of worse hands.

Originally posted by PakerFace
Regarding the river sizing, I think anything in range 50-100% would be fine. Depending on what we want to achieve.

Agreed. Halfpot bet is my choice to get value from all sorts of 2pairs. It is the most likely part of villains range anyways and we risk less against a check-raise. Even without 7♣ blocker I think it is not that bad to call a check-raise otr but against the typical opponent raising it with nuts only it is probably an exploitative fold so I would bet-fold to a pot-sized check-raise.


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