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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

How play on this bad turn and on river? Should call here or easy fold, because this sizing is more typical for value hand than bluff.

Very hard play on ggpoker on nl5, only must fold, less value hands and of course zero calls (in multiway too) when finally catch set. People too often 3bets/squeeze here.


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yangmartins
Joined: 28.11.2009

You ended up saving money by playing wrong, imo.
I think the turn is actually bettable, but you'd probably need to bet more than $0.66. As a rule, I like to bet the turn, so that villain doesn't "free bet" river with a size I don't want to pay.
Probably I would'v gonne $0.80/$1 on turn, both for value, protection and cheaper SD, as I would chbh river if villain allowed.

Originally posted by aleasy77
Very hard play on ggpoker on nl5, only must fold, less value hands and of course zero calls (in multiway too) when finally catch set. People too often 3bets/squeeze here.

One of the beauties of poker is that one needs to adapt. If you'r having a bad run on cards, you need to start playing some marginal hands IP, so that you are not perceived as a rock, when you actually have something. If you play premiums (or they perceive you to) and/or if you change your bet size/only bet when you hit strong, opponents will adapt by overfolding to you and you should explore.
I agree there's great difference between NL2 and NL5, but I don't think the site is dealing you bad hands, probably you are just not mixing enough suboptimal hands (specially IP) and expecting villains to pay you same as they did in NL2.
Take NL5 as an opportunity to widen your IP range and post-flop play with such hands, as you'll need it later on.


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aleasy77
Joined: 03.03.2014

But with marginal hands I have problem postflop because very often I catch nothing and vs cbet opponent I should fold or try bluff him with raise.
For example we call 3bet on position with JTs preflop and flop is A82 rainbow and opponent cbet vs small bet we can call when he całych backdoor flush and straight draw but when turn is most time don't change nothing vs second cbet we must fold and Burn money. So when I find materials which show how play when board isn't good for us, because on a lot of materials are very often Play only when we catch something postflop.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have fixed the picture for you.

I would most likely play the same way you did. It's tough to get value on the turn and you can bluff catch the river.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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