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PLO50 KJTTds 3way 3bet pot, fast or slow play nuts?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

BU had been fairly active looking though not out of line. Small sample so no real reads. I think preflop this hand is quite standard 3bet versus BU iso raise range.

Flop is not that great for my range. Of course we will have some AQQ and rundowns type hands that hit hard but also plenty of AA, KK,. AKQT etc. so I would approach this as mainly checking. I dont think we want to check whole range though. This hand could also work as cbet not blocking board pairs at all but I also think people on average actually fast play two pair and sets in these spots too much. So we often get action from those with check as well.

Anyway BU goes for small 1/3 pot stab which is actually quite rare. Much more often facing half pot to pot bets. So I were thinking that this guy probably has fair amount of bet-folds based on sizing and decided to slowplay. I think in these low SPR spots nuts actually slowplay more with stronger combos and fast play weaker ones? Stronger ones blocking more of villains stack off range. I would have just x-shoved versus big bet though.

Game #1889212095: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 17:23:37 2023/06/02
Seated players
Seat 1: Kontic (€50) (sitting out)
Seat 2: Naryta (€51.78)
Seat 3: ihgf (€99.38)
Seat 5: Elpatron21 (€48.25)
Seat 6: Litek7 (€105.21)
Blinds and button
Litek7 has the button
Naryta posts small blind €0.25
ihgf posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Naryta J♠:T♣:T♠:K♣:
Preflop
Elpatron21 calls €0.50
Litek7 raises €2.25 to €2.25
Naryta raises €7.50 to €7.75
ihgf folds
Elpatron21 calls €7.25
Litek7 calls €5.50
Flop 8♦:9♥:Q♠: (23.75€)
Naryta checks
Elpatron21 checks
Litek7 bets €7.25
Naryta?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

With the nuts re-draw I would at least call as PLO fish.
You have still 2 streets to get the money in. Slow playing seems alright, but it could end up nasty if the board paired on turn or river.

Cheers,
SDK987


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

I dont get why this flop is bad for your range? especially if you 3bet JTxxds without an ace blocker combos preflop!?

anyway I can see myself check this flop 3ways some times but I happily check-pump it in after one stab. a slowplay x/c might be an option with at least a pair blocker if not two and a second bdfd


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

10% 3bet range from SB should have JT, set or Q9/Q8 about 1/3 times. With JJ/TT blockers, we hit the board 40% of times. I would say that the flop is not bad for our range. I would cbet 1/3 and then easy shove on the turn if we get called.

If we get tricky and check, then c-raise. If we call and pot is hut on the turn, SPR would be under 1. Not sure if opponent is going to barrell if he has a bluff. I would just raise the flop, in case he has something and can't fold it.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah likely cbet or x-r would be better. My thought process would apply more into bit lower flop like T76. Well anyway I did x-c. Turn was 7 (cant remember suit but not spade), I check, BU pot and we get it in. Villain show 8776ss and I wondered if his flop or turn play are good. I dont really mind small stab in HU pot with that hand but 3way it seems too light?


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