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PLO25 KKT2r 3bet pot deep stacked

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Villain seems like ok TAG type player.

I open BU and call versus 3bet. Now 100bb deep I would snap fold this all day long to 3bet. As we are 240bb deep I believe we should not fold almost anything. Though maybe this hand is still fold. If I remember right I checked spot like this in trainer that 200bb deep we would only fold like 5% of open raise range in PLO500. Of course rake is smaller there though its also notable that as we are 3handed rake cap is half of normal.

Flop is kind of close imo. With bdfd it would be clear call versus half pot imo but not sure about this.

Well I hit nuts on turn and go for pot bet SPR being close to 5 still. Villain x-shove and we stack off. Another interesting point is villain turn line. Result in spoiler.

Game #1909435282: Table €25 PL - 0.10/0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha - 18:47:19 2023/07/09
Seated players
Seat 1: SeeNoEvill (€22.95)
Seat 2: Okosas (€90.19)
Seat 6: RRAISEE (€61.21)
Blinds and button
Okosas has the button
RRAISEE posts small blind €0.10
SeeNoEvill posts big blind €0.25
Hole cards
Dealt to Okosas T♣:K♥:2♦:K♠:
Preflop
Okosas raises €0.85 to €0.85
RRAISEE raises €2.70 to €2.80
SeeNoEvill folds
Okosas calls €1.95
Flop 9♦:Q♠:6♥: (5.85€)
RRAISEE bets €2.92
Okosas calls €2.92
Turn J♠: (11.69€)
RRAISEE checks
Okosas bets €11.69
RRAISEE raises €46.76 to €46.76
Okosas raises €72.78 to €84.47, and is all-in
RRAISEE calls €8.73, and is all-in
Uncalled bet returned to Okosas: €28.98

Spoiler

Showdown
River 8♦:
Okosas shows T♣:K♥:2♦:K♠:, A Straight
RRAISEE shows Q♦:9♠:A♠:Q♣: , Three of a kind, Queens
Okosas wins €121.42
Summary
Total pot €122.67 Rake €1.25

I like his preflop and flop lines. Cbet size could potentially be bit bigger this deep. Not sure about turn. Issue is that if you get allin you are likely versus straight almost always. But on other hand he still has lot of equity and getting implieds with x-c can be hard. Anyway I think bit shallower his line is solid but not sure with this stack depth.

SB had 40% on turn. Anyway just wonder if I take deep stack reasoning too far in this one and just got lucky or was it reasonable line?


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Nothing to comment on hero's play here, easy money.

About villain's play I agree. I think he should bet bigger on such flop if he is gonna bet; not the most favorable flop for 3-betting range but obviously pretty good for his hand.

And I agree on the turn too, I dont know what the check raise really accomplishes. Sure he gets the money in without having to play river, but also indeed two straights get there so he will most likely get money in 40-60 or fold out hero's bluffs, worse FD's, two pairs. Well maybe T8 too, but essentially he is bluffing with guaranteed good equity for some reason here.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Yeah I think betting small like 1/4-1/3 pot in turn would be pretty nice for his hand. I would also think that could perhaps be gto wise something it would use. Idea being there are some hands that really cant fold to small bet but are in very bad shape versus his hand, Also perhaps some hands would not mind to bet-fold for protection like some AAQQ perhaps. Kind of suck versus pot bet if checking. If I remember right solver was using some of these top sets as bet-fold when they had absolutely no straight blocker value but who know if this is one of those spots :) Well might be it was sets blocking own boat outs like AQQ9 without fd couldm´make sense.

With shallower stack I think turn x-shove is ok as it guarantees full equity realization and hand suck as bluff catch on blank rivers. Like if stacks are such that SPR is around 0.5 on river after turn x-c do you want to fold or call blank river?


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