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PLO50 A965ds overplayed?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I just joined table orbit two orbits ago. SB seems very active and fairly aggro postflop but there had not been showdowns.

Preflop is call for me for most part. I think 3bet with two bottom gap is quite loose?

Flop I were kind of mixed if I want to raise or just call. I think both are reasonable but just having bottom gs might actually make call better.

Turn we get another gs and this is pretty clear pot for me. Ton of equity and having chance to get some better (made hand wise) hands to fold.

River pair the board and I would just check here having some showdown value and I think its probably tough to get better hands to fold often enough. Basically if betting we would aim to get overpairs to fold. But really I think my hand is kind of fine check as we beat fair amount of busted draw hands and we actually unblock wraps for most part.

But to my surprise SB lead shove himself and my first thought was "this is really weird line". In general I tend to face these kind of lines more on locked down boards where its paired before river. At those spots it tends to be slowplayed boat really often. But this is weird board to face this imo. Could be perhaps some 93, 73 boat or maybe just random 3x as value. Overpairs should be more of bluff catcher type and would be weird to lead. Anyway I doubt SB should really ever lead here theory wise as our uncapped range just has more boats? Wonder if leading some overpairs is actually thing for SB here...

Anyway I thought this could be often enough one of those "desperation" bluffs with busted wrap type hands so went with hero call.

Game #1906925551: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 08:57:28 2023/07/05
Seated players
Seat 1: Okosas (€49.75)
Seat 3: AKhigh1 (€72.41)
Seat 4: Presntflow (€71.09)
Blinds and button
AKhigh1 has the button
Presntflow posts small blind €0.25
Okosas posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Okosas 5♦:9♣:6♣:A♦:
Preflop
AKhigh1 folds
Presntflow raises €1.25 to €1.50
Okosas calls €1
Flop 9♦:7♦:2♥: (3€)
Presntflow bets €1.50
Okosas raises €6 to €6
Presntflow calls €4.50
Turn 3♠: (15€)
Presntflow checks
Okosas bets €15
Presntflow calls €15
River 3♣: (45€)
Presntflow bets €33.75
Okosas calls €27.25, and is all-in


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PakerFace
Joined: 19.09.2010

I would consider 3b this hand IP as well.

He called the flop raise which gives us some info. Would he call a raise with K-high FD? Not too sure about that. I would say more likely some combo draw type hand such as JdTdxx. Obvious ones are 99xx and 77xx but I think he would put money in with those. Overpair? Questionable but not impossible.

The river lead looks like a slowplayed set OTF then boated up or some magical 3x.

Really curious what he had.

That's a brave call BTW.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Key point is that its river that pairs the board. I mean villain could have set after flop b-c but after turn x-c? Seems very unlikely as sets that call flop does so often for slowplay but to also have blank turn that shifts equity versus combo draws. That to x-r turn.

So I think if we are beat its versus some sort of 3x that had draw or weird overpair.


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Padelbro
Joined: 21.01.2010

Leading river with OP should never be a play, as the most value comes from against missed draws that wont be calling but could be bluffing. That said you just dont know against these random players, he always could be doing this with OP.

Hand really isnt ideal for bluffcatching blocking some diamonds (gladly not other high FDs than A-high) and also some straightdraws. Also his line is just bad, there is these other missed draws out there and opponent seems aggro, so I dont hate calling either.

Preflop it could be either way. On the other hand you probably wont have much FE against him and hand isnt that strong, but on the other he will have tons of total garbage and this hand at least has DS and some connectivity.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Villain had like A♠:5♠:K♦:J♦: type hand here. I would have just x-c in his shoes on flop. Well even folding versus pot bet but I would never pot anyway here.


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

Without the open ended straight Draw on the flop i would just check call the flop.


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