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:8c: :9d: :Kh: :Kd: at BB against 2

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Khiiniau
Joined: 21.08.2008

I feel that some times I'm overplaying KK from blinds. In this hand I decided to call when preflop maniac opens from CO and semi-maniac calls from SB because with those guys it could easily provide to preflop AI. Too weak?

Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BTN: $10.46 (209.2 bb)
SB: $8.32 (166.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.00 (100 bb)
UTG: $5.75 (115 bb)
CO: $3.50 (70 bb)

SB posts $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05
Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 8♣: 9♦: K♥: K♦:
fold, CO raises to $0.17, fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.12


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regie
Joined: 06.03.2008

Its an easy call in my opinion 3 way. 2 way You can 3 Bet fold or just call. Mix it up sometimes


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Yeah, suited KK definitely playable. I think too that the question should be whether to 3bet versus aggros or not. I would lean to just calling, as getting money in postflop isn't often a problem with aggros. CO is 70bb, which makes it easier to stack him off on the flop if he bets.


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Khiiniau
Joined: 21.08.2008

Yes, I called. Flop was interesting

Flop: ($0.51, 3 players) 7♦: K♣: Q♦:
SB checks, Hero donk or wait CO to bet and check-raise?


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

Versus aggros always c-raise. :)


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Khiiniau
Joined: 21.08.2008

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Versus aggros always c-raise. :)
I prepared for that. Unfortunately I didn't look that CO's Flop Cbet was only 33% when VPIP/PFR/3bet 81/53/31

Flop: ($0.51, 3 players) 7♦: K♣: Q♦:
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.51, 3 players) T♦:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25, SB calls $0.25
Probably both CO and CB have smaller flush, smaller set or 2 pairs?

River: ($1.26, 3 players) 7♠:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.91, fold, SB calls $0.91
Value bet 75%

Spoiler

Results: $3.08 pot ($0.12 rake)
Final Board: 7♦: K♣: Q♦: T♦: 7♠:

Hero shows 8♣: 9♦: K♥: K♦:: (Full House, Kings full of Sevens)
(Pre 52%, Flop 72%, Turn 25%)

SB mucks 8♥: A♦: Q♥: 5♦:: (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 48%, Flop 28%, Turn 75%)

Hero wins $2.96

WP CB:f_drink:


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I would squeeze preflop with those reads on CO and stack off versus 4bet. Pretty much bottom of 3bet range though.

Turn half pot is fine. There can be some straights as well especially from first caller.

Just potting river personally. If river was blank it's btw fine to bet-fold. Very few will try to bluff raise or value raise weaker.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

I think both calling and squeeze (3-betting) is fine. Against their loose ranges 3-bet is probably the better play but it requires experience in 3bp postflop maneuvring where mistakes are more expensive and plays have higher variance.

Versus aggros always c-raise.

+1

CO's Flop Cbet was only 33% when VPIP/PFR/3bet 81/53/31

Check-raise still makes sense.

1. Due to their loose preflop ranges, a lower aggressive frequency postflop still countains a lot of hands. He has to give up more often because it is harder for him to hit the flop overall.

2. You do not know how the composition of the stat looks like and how it differes on different textures or amount of players in the pot. It also means better instant stack-off chances with the nuts against a weaker made hand ie when the check-back contains more draws or weaker bet-folding SDV.

Betting turn and river big is correct. Betting the turn just with half-pot is a little timid imo. We are not completely capped yet whereas opponents partially are. Finally when the flop was checked a fancy river check-raise is less favourable in general.


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