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PLO50 AKQ4ss HU going for big blocker bluff?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Villain is solid reggy player. Not much HU reads though. Potentially overfolding versus lines that pool doesnt bluff that much.

So preflop is standard call to me and seems to be also for trainer call hand. Though higher suit did go for 3bet. But I also think villain is not open raising 80+%.

Flop I check range and from what I have seen range checking is very common in HU (from watching way more experienced players). I suppose because ranges are so wide and having positional disdvantage?

So turn complete flush but we have top pair with A so I dont see much point leading and turning it into bluff. But then BU pots which to me seems pretty much flush or air. But issue in my mind was that I dont see nut blocker that valuable in calldown hand as villain range will be so heavily focused on smaller flushes. So not sure. Folding feels bit weak, calling seems kind of optimistic. Could perhaps call with plan to x-r river?

Do we want to use this combo for x-r bluff with no equity or more preferably some like two pair or set with nut blocker? In a way I think this opponent is ok for this line as I think he wont just snap call flushes as imo this line is very underbluffed. Its way more common people will bet, bet with nut blocker.

Game #2053681890: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 16:39:47 2024/03/07
Seated players
Seat 2: Manossa (€57.49)
Seat 4: k_haukka (€50)
Blinds and button
k_haukka has the button
k_haukka posts small blind €0.25
Manossa posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Manossa 4♦:A♣:K♠:Q♦:
Preflop
k_haukka raises €1.25 to €1.50
Manossa calls €1
Flop K♣:6♣:T♠: (3€)
Manossa checks
k_haukka checks
Turn 2♣: (3€)
Manossa checks
k_haukka bets €3
Manossa raises €12 to €12
k_haukka calls €9
River 3♠: (27€)
Manossa bets €27


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

In trainer land in BUvsBB spot it seems like BB leads 1/3 pot or checks. My combo seems to be mix and it x-c versus 1/3 pot. Again in trainer BU only use 1/3 pot which is obviously way different compared to pot bet. On blank river my hand would then be mix of x-c and x-r versus pot bet.


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debelinko
Joined: 11.04.2007

I guess the river bluff depends heavily on how often you think he folds non-nut flushes in HU play. I would just bet the turn and be done with the hand. The line you took may be slightly better EV, but it's also high variance and it puts you in difficult spots where you're likely to make a wrong decision (especially as you're out of position).


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

If you want to have A-blocker bluffs in your range, you fire river. But the thing is, how often you play nut flush in reality that way? Quite often players tend to bet the flush ott after flop goes checked, and c-raise with blocker bluff.

Also once he pots, and you raise pot, you need a lot of FE for direct odds. Not sure how PLO50 works at Unibet, but at least at lower stakes in pretty much all networks I have found out that trying to make people fold flushes once they bet big doesn't work that often.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

As default I base turn decision on my side cards. So if I have nut flush components that prefer x-r would be:

- Not blocking other high clubs so in this case Q or J mainly. I want opponent to either have high flush or flush blocker he can bluff with.
- Blocking made hands that can check for showdown or call turn probe bet. So in this case K is blocking such hands quite a bit. Even bigger reason if I had like KT

So I would think my hand with two clubs would be reasonable x-r. Could also x-c to aim for river x-r to allow opponent to second barrel as bluff. But I have feeling that line won't get as much credit versus most opponents.


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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

When you x/r a pot bet, I don't think blocking TP here has relevance anymore. He could some k-set but that's pretty much it imo.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I meant it matter for turn check in first place. With my hand I have reasonable showdown value so I would like to see free river. If I had nuts it would matter in way that I block some potential call hands (versus turn probe) and also make it more likely opponent has something he might bluff with.


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