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PLO50 KKJ9ss 3way 3bet pot, low straight flop, x-shove?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

So CO has been opening wide, around 30/25 style. BU is around 50/10, no specific postflop reads.

CO open, BU call, I squeeze and both call. Check flop and BU pots. So with 100bb stacks this is standard x-shove to me as SPR would be less than 2. Now SPR is 2.5 vs CO and 3 vs BU. I think with 200bb starting stack I would just x-f to pot bet. Not really sure about this 150bb stack depth.

In game I thought this pot size is not usually very strong hand theory wise but this might not really apply to recreational player.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Looks like everyone missed this hand so far. As PLO fish I would most likely shove as well on the flop with the 2nd nut flush draw in combination with a over pair. Off course this could be tricky without any fold equity and I expect you need to hit the flush to win.

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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

At 150bb vs CO I´d check-shove it you will do fine against a range that is probably a little wider here.

Against the BU as played I think it´s marginal but I would be more inclined to check-fold. The typical 50/10 recreational has the mindset of taking a lot of flops and continiung those pretty value-heavy. They don´t adapt enough in 3bp´s in terms of lowering their handstrength requirement. If such a player pots it, I agree this often means they have it. But first you don´t know exactly what they consider "having it" and second I have seen some of them falling out of line occasionally probably due to a lack of discipline or other reasons. So if he stacks-off set, straight, top2pair+fd and broadway overpair+nfd (or pair+nfd - it does not change much equitywise) from a 30% vpip you are actually 2:1 favourit. That range does not cover it perfectly, I know many nutpeddlers are just even way tighter than that. If he is very picky and cuts it down to sth like set, straight, top2pair+fd and nutflushdraw+sv without the bw-overpair+fd or pair+fd´s we drop significantly to 32-37% (depending on how picky he is with sidevalues) which is not enough to stack-off at SPR 3. And we have no FE. I´d need to make an alias an research that line... but I did not get so far yet.


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