PLO10 OESD wrap rainbow board - Call flop?

Snap fold preflop. Even if price is good for completing you will enter 4way pot in worst position. What you need is nuttiness in form of high pair/cards, high suits or connectivity. This hand doesnt have any of those components and its very rare to flop something you want to invest any money into pot.

On flop its easy fold to this action. Even versus first bet it would be close.

As a rule of thumb, you can't call a pot sized bet with oesd. The first bet was a bit over half a pot, if UTG had folded it would be close. If all of our 8 outs are alive, we would need about half a pot as value if we hit it. If he has a set, betting pot would give us 3/4 pot as value (as he would hit the full house 1/4 times). The problem is that if turn completes the straight, we have to bet big ourselves. Opponent could easily fold 2 pairs or weaker hands. And there is the chance that he has AJ and we lose to nut straight if Q comes. So overall, it's a situation where in the best case scenario we can make slightly profitable call, and in the worst case scenario it highly losing call.

Preflop is a nasty one, as it seems you get a good price for just a half of a blind. If opponents are passive and call happy, I would complete and see the flop. We need to realize just 1/8 of a pot postflop. If opponents bet or raise only strong hands, we definitely achieve that.

Originally posted by Kyyberi
Preflop is a nasty one, as it seems you get a good price for just a half of a blind. If opponents are passive and call happy, I would complete and see the flop. We need to realize just 1/8 of a pot postflop. If opponents bet or raise only strong hands, we definitely achieve that.

yeah, the preflop action is call-heavy on 888 on the micros, the "deny equity, get HU in position" mantra is kinda mostly not possible cause then you sit on a flop 3-4 handed with a blown up pot and someone donks into you while your aces or double suited broadways have just become what they are, two or four nice looking cards 4-handed...
I try to play it passively pre right now and give them rope on later streets, that was the whole intention in this hand.
Thanks for clarifying and poniting out certain game-related issues with my way of thinking in-game, much appreciated. I'll check out your YT channel, any videos you can highly recommend?

In that environment we should open raise all our strong hands. The pots are often multiway, so we want to open hands that have nut potential. That means high cards, high flush draws, high pairs. Then it's just waiting to hit them, and extract value postflop.

On the topic, wrap is a straight draw that has 9 or more outs, oesd is a straight draw with 8 outs. You don't have a wrap here. And technically you have double gutshot (but it's similar to oesd in terms of outs).

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