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PLO50 AT33ds 3bet pot, postflop line?

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

BU seems solid reggy player from small sample.

Preflop 3bet is ok imo.

Flop I felt kind of unsure on sizing from two sizing approach (half or full pot). On one hand we benefit from small sizing keeping more fd hands in. On other hand I felt our hand also benefit from max fe having quite bad playability. Though for turn its also nice we have some nut fd combos in our pot range.

Turn I decided to check as this is kind of bad turn for fair amount of my range. Villain can have lot of busted straight draws that potentially semibluffs. We have SPR 0.9 on turn.

Interesting question is also river plan. E,g, what is our plan if turn goes checked on different rivers? On straightening river villain probably should value bet nut straight at least theory wise (might depend on whatever having flush blocker). But I think people tend to be value betting too tight so lead shove might be better. Pairing card we probably have to lead as bluffs or weaker value betting is just quite unlikely. Blank I would probably still lean toward check to allow bluff opportunity. Like weaker flushes are very often value betting at least river and might be tough to get call from set or two pair.

Game #2126881513: Table €50 PL - 0.25/0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:10:39 2024/07/22
Seated players
Seat 1: KingLo0cO (€49.25) (sitting out)
Seat 2: -Mike- (€41.56)
Seat 3: HoldemSp3rm (€66.12)
Seat 4: takkarpokkar (€88.03)
Seat 5: Rafufus (€50)
Blinds and button
takkarpokkar has the button
Rafufus posts small blind €0.25
-Mike- posts big blind €0.50
Hole cards
Dealt to Rafufus 3♥:T♥:A♣:3♣:
Preflop
HoldemSp3rm folds
takkarpokkar raises €1.75 to €1.75
Rafufus raises €5.50 to €5.75
-Mike- folds
takkarpokkar calls €4
Flop A♦:Q♣:9♣: (12€)
Rafufus bets €12
takkarpokkar calls €12
Turn 4♣: (36€)
Rafufus checks


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Pre and flop is standard, I think half-potting flop could be an option with the T♣: but the pp decreases playability so when in doubt I also like pot more.

Yeah you check turn frequently with stronger hands but slowing down the nutflush is too timid imo unless you have some aggressive float dynamics ongoing. Nutflush is your top-value range and should keep barreling, your bluffs are basically driving the action in the slipstream of hands like yours. Use mediocre hands to switch gears defending with a check-call twice like set/2pair+flush-blocker or low/mid-high flushes.

River: Once you check-call turn you gotta check river too unless one-&-done type of players that are sticky too


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Meant river in case turn goes checked. Yeah we can definitely bet turn as well with small sizing. I think even some 1/5 pot is fine. But it's not really bad to check either as we still have option to leverage whole stack on river. Plus we do unblock lot of straight draws.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Originally posted by ghaleon
Meant river in case turn goes checked. Yeah we can definitely bet turn as well with small sizing. I think even some 1/5 pot is fine. But it's not really bad to check either as we still have option to leverage whole stack on river. Plus we do unblock lot of straight draws.

I am 2barreling half-pot only here on lockdown turns (I used to bet 3/4 but halfpot seems to do the job aswell). Our bluffs are happy to fold out any sort of non-flush hands imo, not sure if villain actually would fold stuff like pair/2pair against a very small sized bet..

The theorey says

strong hands - bet/raise
mediocre hands - call/check
air/weak hands - bet/raise/fold

So by checking the nuts here you basically try to set up a check-shove range that has quite some (semi-)bluffs aswell and you'd expect villain to float bet-(call) loose.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

When you rep AA on the flop and check turn, opponent most likely will not bluff turn with that SPR. So turn check is to induce a river bluff.

In a vacuum I would just shove turn and smile when opp calls with a wrap. If we battle with opponent more and we want to build some tendencies, checking turn and river protects your checks in the future. In the end I am not sure if the EV really changes that much. If he has the fluh, money goes in. If he has straight draw, we gain some value by betting turn and some by letting him bluff it on the river. In either case if we check turn I would check river also. Checking turn and shoving river doesn't really make sense.


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