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AKo - SB 3bet vs MP call 3bet

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shylikea
Joined: 02.09.2014

Hello guys. I would love to say my english is not the best and as well my hands that I gonna post here might be so obvious to you but I think it is gonna be the best way for me to learn more. So you can luagh at me or not but as long as one person gonna help me with hand review that would be awesome :). I will try to post samll medium and big hands.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 58 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 223.5 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
UTG: 103.5 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 12)
Hero (MP): 205 BB
CO: 174 BB (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♥ A♠

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 2♠ 4♠ A♣
SB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (35 BB, 2 players) Q♠
SB bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River: (65 BB, 2 players) Q♣
SB bets 68 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 68 BB

The villain in unkown.

F: He bets 1/3 I think with most of his range. I have a call for sure.
T: He bets 1/2. At the moment Im ahead of AJ / split with AK / lose to AQ and some maybe JK , JT spade. I have blocker to nut flash. I call here.
R: He goes all in... I lose to AQ , AA, QQ, JK spades, JT spades. I win against AJ (but I dont think he would go all in here..), and some JK with backdoor flash and GS. I dont think he would go all in with not nut flash...

I dont know what should I think and how to think about this spot. If somebody could help me that would be nice :)


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Welcome to hand analyze area. I doubt anyone comes to laugh here to any play so no worries of that. I don't play holdem cash or any holdem much these days but some points.

Preflop we can either 4bet or call. I believe normal 4bet sizing would be like 23-25bb or so.

Flop and turn are mandatory calls.

River I would say we have mainly bluff catcher. So if that is the case we need to ask if opponent finds bluffs instead. SB probably doesn't have too much hands like KJo that could have spade blocker. But bluffs would probably come more from some pockets with spade blocker or maybe some KJs.

I would expect this hand to call lot theory wise but versus lot of players we have likely fold. Seems to me like spot where bluffs for triple barrel are rare.

But someone with actual holdem cash experience might have different opinion.


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shylikea
Joined: 02.09.2014

Okey thank you for the answer ! :)


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by ghaleon
Welcome to hand analyze area. I doubt anyone comes to laugh here to any play so no worries of that. I don't play holdem cash or any holdem much these days but some points.

Preflop we can either 4bet or call. I believe normal 4bet sizing would be like 23-25bb or so.

Flop and turn are mandatory calls.

River I would say we have mainly bluff catcher. So if that is the case we need to ask if opponent finds bluffs instead. SB probably doesn't have too much hands like KJo that could have spade blocker. But bluffs would probably come more from some pockets with spade blocker or maybe some KJs.

I would expect this hand to call lot theory wise but versus lot of players we have likely fold. Seems to me like spot where bluffs for triple barrel are rare.

But someone with actual holdem cash experience might have different opinion.

Seems alright. I don't think a random NL2 player will bluff enough to make a profitable river call.


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beazer
Joined: 07.06.2023

I'm playing pre and flop Street same as poster ( my thinking for flop is I have the required equity to continue).

I like my hands EV on the turn with my hand equity and also good implied odds from the draw. the draw increases my hand EV.

River Street: when villain goes all with roughly pot size river bet I feel I'm behind and fold for me. villians hand equity and EV on this end of action river spot must be very high is my thinking. I think I'm definitely behind here so I fold quickly for me.

thanks for posting to shylikea.


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