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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

open CO :Tx: :Tx: :Qx: :8x: single suited
BU 3bets, SB short stack calls
3♣:6♥:7♠:
SB donk shoves 14bb into 42bb pot
I Got 1bdfd. What would you do here? I was leaning shove or fold. SB is a very big station, and could be shoving very wide. It's very likely I have better hand than him. I think my hand is just bit weak to shove, with just little more equity I would have shoved.
Calling depends on how likely it's that BU shoves/squeezes, what do you think he would do if I call? I don't have info on but BU, but usually his 3bet range is Top heavy. Generally people overplay their AA on these boards, so it's possible he squeezes vs a call. Anyway I ended up folding.

CO limps, SB limps, BB checks :Kx: :8x: :8x: A♦:
Flop K♦:8♥:6♠:
SB leads 2/3, BB calls, BU raises Pot, SB calls, BB 3bets POT CO calls, SB folds.
4♦:
SPR is 1
BB? So at higher SPR I would check here without any relevant blockers to the straight. But at SPR 1 I'm not sure. On reason I checked because having middle sets means less likely I will stack vs lower set. I do have A♦:, but I don't that's very relevant here. Turned ended up checking through.
9♦:
Checks through again.
Co wins with A♥:9♠:7♠:T♥:
We started 170bb deep eff I think.


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Kyyberi
Joined: 09.07.2010

First one, I would shove. Quite unlikely that BU hits that flop hard and he should fold a ton of equity (all overpairs). Even if SB has 45, you have equity versus that. And as you said, you might have the best hand often too. With shove you put a lot of pressure to BU, who should fold most of his range.

Second hand, you are messing up with the positions. First there is CO, BU and BB in the hand, then SB joins on the flop to lead, CO disappears but re-appears later to call etc. Not sure what is happening there.

If there are three players involved, and you are on the turn HU with the flop pot raiser, then shove. You were not worried about KK (and we shouldn't as we have K blocker). Only 57 gets there but he has more than that in his range. The worst option is to check at SPR 1. If he shoves, either you call or make a hero fold. So he can decide if he wants the money to go in or to bluff you. If you start folding, you will make some bad folds. If you are calling always, you don't really achieve anything. He will call your shove 100% of times. If you pass the choice to him, you will lose money in the long run compared to shoving yourself.


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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

Yeah on the 2nd hand I miswrote, CO limped, SB limped and BB checked, I corrected it. Thanks, I agree.


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