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Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, 10
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, MP1 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls

Flop: (16 SB) 6, 4, 2 (5 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 raises, CO calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls

Turn: (12 BB) J (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold

River: (14 BB) J (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls

Total pot: $8 (16 BB) | Rake: $0.40

Results:
Hero had 10, 10 (two pair, Jacks and tens).
MP1 had 9, 9 (two pair, Jacks and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $7.60

is this a good call? i called becos i guessed he had aK and he knew he had to bet to win the pot and the pot was too big for me to just fold for 1 bet


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Hello!

Could you please convert your hands using various handconverter before I evaluate them?

Regards,

Primzi


i found it.. thanks alot for ur help!!


Hello!

Thank you for converting the hand :). Just one more thing - please don't post the results next time ;).

Your hand is a fold preflop. You should cap QQ+ AKo+ here, I suggest that you stick to the bronze starting hands charts for FR.

On the flop you are in very bad shape, your equity is only 9%:

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 8,963% 8,622% 1,250% 90,128% TsTd
Player 2: 14,072% 12,995% 2,722% 84,283% JJ-99, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, KdQd
Player 3: 62,560% 61,255% 3,179% 35,566% JJ+, AdKd
Player 4: 14,405% 13,798% 1,782% 84,420% JJ-77, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, KdQd, KdJd, QdJd, JdTd, Td9d, 9d8d, 8d7d, 7d6d

We can now see if the call has positive EV (expecting UTG+1 to call):

EV = (possible winnings) * (probability of winning) - (possible losses) * (probability of losing)

EV = 22SB*0.09 - 2SB*0.91

EV = 1.98SB - 1.82SB

EV = +0.16SB

This means that you can call flop even without implied odds because the pot is so big. On the turn however you should fold unless you hit a T.

As for your reads, you shouldn't assume what the oponnent has but rather a range of hands that he could have ;). I see no reason why he wouldn't play AK of diamonds and JJ+ like this and pretty much all hands but AK of diamonds beat you.

Regards,

Primzi


Hi!

Hand is at least 4 handed + blinds its an easy call for me (at least for a set value) preflop.If there was no coldcaller however its a fold since they are UTG and as default have pretty tight ranges


Hello Bapsy!

You're platinum and he's silver so he doesn't know the approx chart yet. And even if we use the approx chart we need 5:1 pot odds, maybe even 7.5:1 because the implied odds aren't that big because of the reverse implied odds as a conscequence of tight ranges and we're only getting 3.5:1 here... No way that's an easy call preflop, rather an easy fold ;).

Regards,

Primzi


actually.. i read alot of poker books especially david slanky's so i guess my play is not tt of silver level.. =P


Hello!

Well Sklansky's small stakes hold'em is said to be a good FL book and it's good if you read his books but there is still a difference between reading books and actually having good knowledge. On the limit you play I would suggest sticking to the preflop charts from pokerstrategy as you will easily beat this limit with them. As for your knowledge level... I don't know you so I don't know how high it is. But donking turn in the other hand + guessing hands instead of hand ranges + overplaying doesn't give me an impression that you're very experianced because those are beginner mistakes ;). But we'll see, post more hands and we'll fix your leaks :).

Regards,

Primzi


yup.. thanks alot for your help.. i'll definitely post more hands to fix my leaks.. as for ranges of hands.. i do put them on ranges of hands but i only post those that im more certain of instead of stating them all..


Hello!

Just one thing I really have to ask... what makes you conclude that the villain has AK in this hand o.o?

Regards,

Primzi