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Why You are Probably Misplaying Medium Pairs Preflop (And How to Fix It)

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Nica096
Joined: 26.08.2024

Hey everyone 👋
I’ve noticed a recurring leak in live and online games—people aren’t playing medium pocket pairs optimally preflop. Think 77–99 range. I used to overvalue them like crazy… until I dug into my stats and realized they were bleeding my win rate.

A few thoughts to kick off the discussion:

- Opening from EP with 77–88 can be super dicey, especially in tough pools.
- Flatting in MP/CO vs EP raises might seem safe, but you’re often set-mining with poor implied odds.
- Turning these into 3-bet bluffs versus LP opens has actually improved my red line.

Does anyone else use mixed strategies here? Would love to hear your take on balancing aggression vs caution. Also open to hand reviews if people want to dive deeper.

Want it to sound cockier? Nerdier? More meme-y? Just say the word and I’ll remix it. 🎯


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Other factors come in to this.
:diamond:  If you have a tight reputation, opening any pair from EP carries more weight that if you're more of a LAG
:diamond:  If you're playing a SnG, Spingo, MTT or cash game, the value of pocket pairs changes dramatically.

Originally posted by Nica096
I’ve noticed a recurring leak in live and online games—people aren’t playing medium pocket pairs optimally preflop. Think 77–99 range. I used to overvalue them like crazy… until I dug into my stats and realized they were bleeding my win rate.

A few thoughts to kick off the discussion:

- Opening from EP with 77–88 can be super dicey, especially in tough pools.
- Flatting in MP/CO vs EP raises might seem safe, but you’re often set-mining with poor implied odds.
- Turning these into 3-bet bluffs versus LP opens has actually improved my red line.

3Betting 77-99 kinda seems like overvaluing them, though.
The main value of 3Betting them pre is that your CBet carries more weight.
Just out of curiosity, what has 3Betting mid-size PP done for your green line?

Set mining is fine if you can play for stacks — otherwise it isn't worth it.


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