K4 Sb

tcs35

Joined: 31.01.2009

22.07.2009, 17:43 0

I am quite sure its the correct call pre flop. I put him on a weak ace or small pocket pair. i know it was a 100% fold on the river but i couldn't bring myself round to fold even though i knew he had the hand. should i have shoved the flop/turn considering its 3 way and so many draws?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
$1.00+$0.10
9 players

Stacks:
UTG Make Pat Mad (3175)
UTG+1 shrekjames (7480)
MP1 tinchoo22 (4190)
MP2 clodoaldo200 (7205)
MP3 pardauz (4210)
CO pcbarbarroja (2095)
BTN phantomas200 (8105)
SB Hero (3218)
BB Paha_n1972 (8842)

Blinds: 100/200

Pre-flop: (300, 9 players) Hero is SB K♠ 4♥
2 folds, tinchoo22 calls 200, 4 folds, Hero calls 100, Paha_n1972 checks

Flop: 5♠ K♥ 6♠ (600, 3 players)
Hero checks, Paha_n1972 checks, tinchoo22 bets 400, Hero calls 400, Paha_n1972 calls 400

Turn: 4♣ (1,800, 3 players)
Hero bets 800, Paha_n1972 folds, tinchoo22 calls 800

River: 7♣ (3,400, 2 players)
Hero checks, tinchoo22 goes all-in 2,790, Hero goes all-in 1,818

Final Pot: 7,036
tinchoo22 shows: 3♠ 3♣
Hero shows: K♠ 4♥

tinchoo22 wins 8,008 ( won +3,818 )
Hero lost -3,218
Paha_n1972 lost -600

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3 replies

_Anonymous_

23.07.2009, 03:21 0

Hi Toby.

I would never complete preflop here, K4 is nothing to expect to get play with OOP.

TP on this flop is also not good enough for me to want to call with. It can be behind to so many other Kx hands, flush and straight draws. So I fold here.

Turn, now you have 2 pair, which could already be behind a straight, even if that is unlikely. If you bet out here, it has to be much bigger. Since any decent bet is more than most of your stack, shoving would have to be correct.

And, of course, river is just ugly. Since you've checked for bluff induce, you may sometimes be in front. You need to win 25% of the time to make this call.

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Posts: 1,713

25.07.2009, 05:00 0

My rookie opinion...

Pre-flop - K4 is never a great starting hand, but for the price from the small blind I don't totally hate the call occasionally. I would be looking to flop 2 pair or better though - no exceptions. If I don't hit 2 pair or better, then I'm looking to check it down all the way or fold if faced with a bet. If I do hit it, then I bet the pot and try to take it down right there.

Flop - You didn't hit the 2 pair + minimum, so I like your check, but not the call.

Turn - Even though you now have 2 pair, the other 2 players showed interest in the flop so this card scares me. Remember the BB got to see the flop for free so he could have a lot of hands that draw well to that 5♠ 6♠. I would check-fold.

River - Automatic check-fold...

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chenny8888

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Posts: 17,729

27.07.2009, 06:28 0

Hi all,

FOLD PREFLOP!!!

As played, flop's not bad. As played on the turn we should bet more. About 1200 is better. As played on the river just shove directly.

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