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Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

UTG (t6510)
UTG+1 (t1850)
MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t845)
MP3 (t810)
CO (t985)
Button (t2775)
Hero (SB) (t4240)
BB (t1230)

Hero's M: 28.27

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♣, Q♥
UTG bets t300, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t1360 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t985 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero raises to t4240 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG calls t3940

Flop: (t10925) A♠, A♥, 8♣ (4 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (t10925) 6♦ (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t10925) J♥ (4 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t10925

Can we let go this hand?


12 replies
TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

sure u can there is fold button next to call and raise button so u can click fold lol

i think it depends of players how did they play in hands before this 1 are they tight, loose... did some of them MP or CO got bad beat before this and is on tilt and specialy it depends what i think about first raiser who opens this hand UTG guy ( couse he is only 1 that can bust me out in that point) is he tight or loose and should he fold if i push all in.
the problem here is that u can't just flat call here, cause if u flat call here u r investing more than 1/4 of ur stack and UTG guy is after you so he is geting great odds to call (and in that point ur in very bad spot if he just call u got to play big pot out of position and no fold eq) and he also may push all in after u call and then u got ur self in tereble situation so imo is PUSH OR FOLD move here, also this depends of what is aver.stack in tour.
BUT if UTG guy is not there i think that is clear call 100%
with UTG guy still to act after you...hmmm... i think u got big fold eq here but i think that he can only fold hands that u actuly want him to call u pocket pairs or AQ - AK( this hand u might not want to call u in this point because the pot is big enough and is good for u to take it down like is it, if u r ahead and not to flip for side pot biger than main 1 and be facing bust out) on the other hand if he got AK he is bigger underdog that he really is cause some of his outs are sure dead cause often enough CO or MP if they dont have pockets lets say 77-JJ for MP and TT-JJ for CO ( btw imo this is too loose range) they will have somethink like JJ-AA for MP and JJ-AA for CO or AQ-AK hand so if u r ahead they have all together UTG,MP,CO total 10 outs and some runer runer comb.

so if u r ahead u r like 3,4:1 to win and geting GREAT ODDS
if some1 got AA or KK ur big dog with too outs and its time for u to start to pray.

I think push is right move here i play it that way trying to push UTG out of hand and then play for pot with CO and MP. and if i lose i will be left like 2,6k with blinds 50/100 wich is not bad, still live and kicking.

p.s. what did they had? did u win this hand??


bah22
Joined: 28.01.2008

NH! _cool:
You want to isolate against 2 SS which u have beat very often! If UTG has AA/KK it is bad luck. If he has AK and calls there it is bad play by him.


Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

Originally posted by bah22
NH! _cool:
You want to isolate against 2 SS which u have beat very often! If UTG has AA/KK it is bad luck. If he has AK and calls there it is bad play by him.

LOOOOOOOLL

Thats exactly what he had _evil: (AK)


Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

Originally posted by TheRebuz
sure u can there is fold button next to call and raise button so u can click fold lol

i think it depends of players how did they play in hands before this 1 are they tight, loose... did some of them MP or CO got bad beat before this and is on tilt and specialy it depends what i think about first raiser who opens this hand UTG guy ( couse he is only 1 that can bust me out in that point) is he tight or loose and should he fold if i push all in.
the problem here is that u can't just flat call here, cause if u flat call here u r investing more than 1/4 of ur stack and UTG guy is after you so he is geting great odds to call (and in that point ur in very bad spot if he just call u got to play big pot out of position and no fold eq) and he also may push all in after u call and then u got ur self in tereble situation so imo is PUSH OR FOLD move here, also this depends of what is aver.stack in tour.
BUT if UTG guy is not there i think that is clear call 100%
with UTG guy still to act after you...hmmm... i think u got big fold eq here but i think that he can only fold hands that u actuly want him to call u pocket pairs or AQ - AK( this hand u might not want to call u in this point because the pot is big enough and is good for u to take it down like is it, if u r ahead and not to flip for side pot biger than main 1 and be facing bust out) on the other hand if he got AK he is bigger underdog that he really is cause some of his outs are sure dead cause often enough CO or MP if they dont have pockets lets say 77-JJ for MP and TT-JJ for CO ( btw imo this is too loose range) they will have somethink like JJ-AA for MP and JJ-AA for CO or AQ-AK hand so if u r ahead they have all together UTG,MP,CO total 10 outs and some runer runer comb.

so if u r ahead u r like 3,4:1 to win and geting GREAT ODDS
if some1 got AA or KK ur big dog with too outs and its time for u to start to pray.

I think push is right move here i play it that way trying to push UTG out of hand and then play for pot with CO and MP. and if i lose i will be left like 2,6k with blinds 50/100 wich is not bad, still live and kicking.

p.s. what did they had? did u win this hand??

Yeah, hes open raise range could be AJ+ 88+ or whatever, but i was prety sure if i pushed he would call with QQ+,AK. Im not getting any kind of luck at these tourneys _cry: I feel like im wasting my fpp's at stars _mad:


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

Originally posted by Alverine
Yeah, hes open raise range could be AJ+ 88+ or whatever, but i was prety sure if i pushed he would call with QQ+,AK. Im not getting any kind of luck at these tourneys _cry: I feel like im wasting my fpp's at stars _mad:

bad luck ;(
he hit his outs
what SS had pockets??


Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0 Tournament, 50/100 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

UTG (t6510)
UTG+1 (t1850)
MP1 (t1360)
MP2 (t845)
MP3 (t810)
CO (t985)
Button (t2775)
Hero (SB) (t4240)
BB (t1230)

Hero's M: 28.27

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♣, Q♥
UTG bets t300, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t1360 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t985 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero raises to t4240 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG calls t3940

Flop: (t10925) A♠, A♥, 8♣ (4 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (t10925) 6♦ (4 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t10925) J♥ (4 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t10925

Results:
Hero had Q♣, Q♥ (two pair, Aces and Queens).
UTG had A♣, K♠ (three of a kind, Aces).
MP1 had 4♣, 5♣ (one pair, Aces).
CO had J♣, K♣ (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
Outcome: UTG won t10925


bah22
Joined: 28.01.2008

Good play and bad luck!


TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

damn
well played/bad luck
AK bad play/ lucky catch

P.S.as I say before he didn't got 6 full outs with his AK.
damn it hurts when this happens
lol and i give all of them so tight ranges they were just gambling


Alverine
Joined: 31.01.2009

Lol. The level of this tourneys are clearly bad :tongue:


Don't see you having very great equity. Would fold it.


Agiz19
Joined: 19.03.2007

QQ vs multiway donk freeroll pot.....muck it :f_eek:


i think i would fold.
because there is the utg raiser who MIGHT have a very strong hand, there are 2 players who are all in anyways (true they might go all in with a lot of hands but they just MIGHT have AA or KK) and your stack is very good so you dont have to get it in here.
i think i would just push kk+ here.
but well, maybe pushing queens is equity +-0 or a bit +ev but well....
ugly spot
JJ easy fold, AK fold, KK push, AA push, QQ ????? sucks so i would fold ;)