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[Closed] NL50 A2s - nut flush draw on flop

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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$10.42:///////;UTG1$10.95:29/21 /3 /1.7/29 /33 /-/100 ;UTG2$27.02:29/38 /3 /1.7/33 /0 /100 /100 ;[/tg]
0.25/0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♣, 2♣
UTG folds, UTG1 calls $0.50, UTG2 calls $0.50, 6 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.75) 7♣, 9♣, J♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG1 bets $1.75, UTG2 calls $1.75, Hero raises to $9.92 (All-In)...

Final Pot: $23.87

Any thoughts?
Thanks


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with those two I would have c/c the flop.

why would you push?


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Well the thinking was that I'm happy to win the pot here and now if villains fold (i.e. by generating fold equity), or to ensure that if I hit I get paid off.

I felt that if I just call and hit, it's harder to get paid off.

But maybe I'm wrong - do you think just calling was better?

Thanks


if you hit the flush there are still enough hands around that pay you off.

you need some implieds to justify a call here, but those two are loose enough to have them.

their looseness is also the reason i don't think you generate much foldequity.


Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Well I certainly agree that their looseness works against our FE.

But doesn't it also mean we have less implieds, since they'll less often have a hand they're willing to go broke with if an obvious draw completes?

Cheers for the feedback anyhow...


DaPhunk
Joined: 01.03.2008

I like Check/calling for implieds here. I don't really think you have to shove.


Originally posted by Tim64
But doesn't it also mean we have less implieds, since they'll less often have a hand they're willing to go broke with if an obvious draw completes?

true, if you have opponents who are loose preflop but tighten up postflop.

first i don't think they would throw something like middle pair away (that is tighten up postflop) and second you can still hit a that makes someone 2 pair, trpis, a straight or even a lower flush here.


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

If utg+1 just bets and the other one folds, I consider the check/shove

now as played, you want to get moniez on the Turn & River from 2 opponents whenever you hit.

+ You want to have those weaker hands in their range at all time that will call your vBets
+ You do not isolate yourself against better hands

- Gerv