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$0.1/$0.2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q:d, Q:h.
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-Bets, 5 folds, BB caps, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12.5 SB) 5:c, 5:s, 3:s (3 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.25 BB) A:c (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB.

only capping hand im beating on the flop is AK, after the ace comes there's no reason to continue here right? And a raise on the flop wouldnt be very good given the cap either as half those hands beat me? thanks


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raise the flop as you have a very slight equity edge against his JJ+,AKo,AKs range which improves if you add AQs to his range but we can probably leave it out seen as its FR.

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 52.365 % 51.001 % 2.727 % 46.271 % QhQd
Player 2: 47.635 % 46.271 % 2.727 % 51.001 % JJ+, AKs, AKo

It would be close between a cap and a call down after a 3bet, i guess it depends on how aggressive the opponent is and if he 3bets AK, if you think he would, cap and exploit your equity edge, if you dont think he will just call down as your equity against just JJ+ is about 36% which is easily enough.

After the ace comes i would probably fold although i think its close between continuing to calldown your equity is as follows;

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 25.162 % 23.377 % 3.571 % 73.052 % QhQd
Player 2: 74.838 % 73.052 % 3.571 % 23.377 % JJ+, AKs, AKo

Im not sure of the formula for a calldown but i roughly figure you need about 16% for a call down here (if it was 3bet on the flop) which would suggest a calldown is profitable. Although this is hard to accuratly measure as your equity varies if AK is still in his range after the flop and if he would vary his play in face of the ace with JJ-KK

Phew! that got more complex than i thought.

PS. could someone analyse my analysis as its the first time ive done this type of thing so point it out if im going drastically wrong somewhere

edit: i got so carried away and i forgot the 66% rule for raising , maybe its just a calldown from the flop no raise after all! Heck i dont even know any more why dont i leave it to a judge!


Raising flop damages your balancing, but I guess that's not that important on these stakes...


i cant see jacks being in his range for capping.

However should I even keep calling if he's firing on the turn/river with blanks? Because I might be able to call a turn bet, but a river would be pretty thin seeing as unless he's bluffing ace high he almost always has me beat there


I might call the river bet to see what he was playing. He would seem to have a very strong hand and decided to cap rather than just call. I read this post from Ed Miller from 2003 about folding rivers rather than just calling.


frzl
Joined: 25.04.2006

i´m going to pass this one to the math geeks
i think joshquan did a nice job again btw.. not sure if i´m a big fan of the flop raise though. and you can´t cap after a 3-bet


Hi Divinek,

a calldown to the A :club: on the turn or a fold depends on the range you give him. If you think he is pretty tight and JJ is not in his range then a fold is the best line for you. If he is aggressive I like a calldown more as the pot is already pretty big. I don't think that folding is a huge mistake here on this limit yet. Most of the time your opponents are too passive (I may be wrong here).

@Joshquan: On the flop the 66% rule doesn't apply as he can 3-bet enough worse hands and there is still a lot action to come. 50% should be totally fine here. But as our standard line is call flop, raise turn HU in position you shouldn't raise the flop here. As the turncard is pretty bad a raise is no option again.
You can find the needed equity here:
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/fixed-limit/1049/1
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/fixed-limit/1290/1

But I don't want to discuss the article here as it may confuse Divinek too much (and he can't read the yet). Sure the articles are about out of position play but they can be applied for in position play as well. (I think you need slightly less equity.)