[Closed] 3.3 R ~170 left

With a M of 10 I don't like the idea of drawing OOP so check raising is definetly fine to take all the dead money, you are comited on the turn but still have a decent chance to make him fold with a shove.

nh

Q isnt good card for you, its change anything - only this that he can improve. He never put you on the Q and if he had something like 55-99 and he called you on the flop to call you on blank turn (q is blank here).

I would lead out/push this flop (You have very good equity against small pockets and overs and nice against bigpairs) or lead out and if called, bet the turn.

When you raise the flop, what are you representing? You dont have 4 in your range. Only flushdraw and if he is very creative he can call you easily with overs...

Originally posted by budzior

When you raise the flop, what are you representing? You dont have 4 in your range. Only flushdraw and if he is very creative he can call you easily with overs...

- if i have something like a flush draw with 2 overs i'll play it the same way-> raise flop shove any turn,
- if i have over pair 22, 55+ i'll play it the same on flop, ? turn, 88+ shove any turn(i play those pockets same way preflop only i'll reraise with QQ)
- if i have 4x ill play it the same raise flop shove or check turn depends of what card will hit on turn
- if i had something like 35s i'll check/shove flop
- sometimes i'll play this hand same way on flop with only 2 over cards KQ AK AQ with 1

so imo I can represent some hands
-> mine defending range in that spot is prety wide 22+, 45s+,AXs, AK/AQ sometimes even A2-A5, AJ , TJ, KQ and suited 1 gapers 68s+

double post ... sorry

Originally posted by budzior
When you raise the flop, what are you representing? You dont have 4 in your range. Only flushdraw and if he is very creative he can call you easily with overs...

if he calls with overs this is a value raise ♦

Originally posted by alejandrosh

Originally posted by budzior
When you raise the flop, what are you representing? You dont have 4 in your range. Only flushdraw and if he is very creative he can call you easily with overs...

if he calls with overs this is a value raise ♦

the min raise smells llike As or Ks , but for sure his range has to be high like AJs/AQo/ mid pair and on the flop without reraising preflop is hard to repesent the flop other than flush draw or over pair

hope you have 15 live cards on flop but dont think you have & maybe its 9 for flush draw and for this reason would just call flop & check/fold turn

preflop the call is fine.
on the flop you have to choices.
c/r or c/c.
and here i like c/c more. because of those reasons:

he minraised from utg+1 so he might really have a strong hand.
my stack is not that great, if i c/r here and he calls im comitted to shove the turn with not so much equity left.
im gettting WONDERFULL ODDS for drawing at my hand, and i have good implied odds.

so i like to just call with monster odds.
although im oop the semibluff is not very good here because it comitts you if he calls you have a hard time on the turn and the odds you get are sooooo good that you dont have to semibluff. you get a good price for drawing oop so take it and dont be too tricky.

i think you leveld yourself here in this hand where you could easily have just called.

dont risk your life here when you get so good odds.

ok lets say if i just call and what should be mine play on turn first to act??
#1 - if turn came 6,7,T,J,Q,K - 2,4 no
#2 - if turn came 3,5,A (there is str8 possible -> i can represent there A5/A3 combos) no
#3 - if turn came 8,9
#4 - if turn

- what if i dont improve should i check?? what if i check and he bets ( #1-#2) what then??
- I improve (#3-#4) what should i do should i lead out or should i check??

in any case i would check the turn.
because with your call you can represent some hands, like two hearts, any pair, A4s, or two random overcards with one heart (that would be a bad play)
so in case
#1 no help : you check and depending on how big he bets you c/f or c/c, maybe he bets again very small so you get the correct prize to call
#2 also no help but some bluff possibilities. if an ace comes you can go for a c/r all in depending on how big he bets, only do this if he can fold his hand. if the pot and his bet is too big you cant semibluff because you dont have FE.
i wouldnt go for a bluff here if a 3 or 5 comes on the turn. its very unsuall to hold A2 or stuff like that so he wont fold if he has something. but maybe if you check he checks back
#3 if the turn helps you, i go for c/r all in on the turn, because he might fold some overpair like TT or JJ + now you have plenty of outs if he calls you

#4 if you hit your flush the pot will be 76k and you have 170k left. here i would lead out because:
case 1 he got AA,KK,QQ if he got a heart with it he shove and you call, if he has no heart he will at least call one single bet
case 2 he got TT JJ he will call one bet
case 3 he got AK,AQ with one heart he might call or raise depending on how agressive he is
case 4 he got AK,AQ without a heart, he will fold, but its very unlikely he would have bet another time anyway, so it doesnt really change much if you bet or check/raise
case 5 he got pure air, he will fold, but thats what he will do most of the time if you check he checks back, so here checking is a bit better but it doesnt chacnge too much.

so with your big stack you bet/call the turn if you hit and c/f or c/r the turn depending on the card and his betsize