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[Closed] NL100 FR, QQ flop play

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$0.5/$1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Known players:
[tg]CO$146.50:///////;BU$25.75:///////;SB$28.30:///////;BB$133.70:///////;UTG2$93.15:///////;MP1 (Hero)$100.00:///////;MP2$73.30:///////;MP3$19.65:///////;[/tg]
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q:s, Q:h.
UTG2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, CO raises to $12.00, 3 folds, Hero calls $8.50.

VILLAIN 19/14/Af 1,42/Afq 44%/ 3-bet from late position 10%

Flop: ($25.5) 2:c, 2:s, 3:c (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $15.00, Hero ??? ,

He C-bets flop 70% of the time. Should I rather

0) donk flop myself?

Or if I checked (which I think is correct since he will C-bet many times and I want to collect his c-bet) shall I
1) c/r since he has many unpaired face cards and weaker pairs in his preflop 3-bet range? And he will surely C-bet with worse hands against one opponent.. Should I go all in directly or miniraise him?
2) call and play the hand as a bluff catcher
3) fold


5 replies

since he´d get all-in with TT, JJ, to me it is easy c/r to 35$ and calling shove
this board is like c/r, since I think he´d expect Ax or some other hands that he might 3-bet ip and if you lead out you loose that extra c-bet


Thanks a lot. I made the same reasoning and raised flop + called his shove.

He had AA this time, unfortunately, so I wanted to verify that my play was OK.


mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

I don't think villian will want to get it in with TT/JJ (unless you have this read).

If villian's range was way tighter, it's definitely check/call flop, check/fold turn if I expect him to pot control TT/JJ and play KK/AA for stacks.

But since his range is filled with a lot of air, I'm tempted to check/call flop, check/call turn, check/fold river if the turn is an Ace/King since I expect him to bluff barrel (of course it might improve his AK hands but I think more of his range is air rather than AK)

I think 4-betting is also an option, 10% is quite high for fullring and if you have been bluff 4-betting before, I would definitely use this option and get him to stack off with AQ/JJ/TT (seen quite a few super aggro players at NL100 FR Stars doing this before).


mbml- can you say reason why player are willing to get all-in TT+/AK pf and would not play for stacks TT/JJ on that low board?


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

I haven't been posting anything about this hand because I wasn't sure about the best play.
However, I came to the conclusion that you should either 4bet or fold preflop.
The reason is that he most likely has a polarized range. If he bluffs you won't get much money in the pot unless he hits and he can bluff you off of your hand effectively if a K or A falls.
If he's value3betting you're obv toast either way.

So either you think his range contains enough air to give you the foldequity you need to make a +EV 4bet or you can fold because he always has the nuts.
A call is almost certainly -EV given that you're OOP and only 100BB deep.

I'm not sure about all the fullringstuff but given your position I think you can probably fold the hand without further reads.
It seems weak but a) there is no better option and b) by folding the worst case is you skip a slightly +EV spot whereas the worst case by calling or 4betting is that he has no bluffs at all against your position is his range (maybe he even calls AK in this spot - I do it a lot) and therefore you run into a total nutrange having only 20% equity.