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[Closed] 11$ A4s, SB, mway pot, FD on the flop

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

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$50/$100 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]BU$3560.00:///////;SB (Hero)$1135.00:///////;BB$1835.00:///////;UTG2$1255.00:///////;MP1$1430.00:///////;MP2$855.00:///////;MP3$1320.00:///////;CO$2110.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with A:s, 4:s.
2 folds, MP2 calls $100.00, MP3 folds, CO calls $100.00, BU calls $100.00, Hero calls $50.00, BB checks.

Flop: ($500) T:s, 5:s, J:c (5 players)
Hero raises to $1,035.00(All-In), BB folds, MP2 calls $755.00(All-In), CO folds, BU folds.

Turn: ($2290) 9:h (2 players)

River: ($2290) K:s (2 players)

Final Pot: $2290.

I'm not so sure abt my push on the flop... I did it cause the pot was already pretty big and ofc i wanted everybody to fold being happy abt increasing my short stack by 50%. The other reason was my short stack itself, but when i think abt it now i wasn't that desperate yet and my draw was not that strong after all, so i guess i should have just played check/fold. what do u guys think?

the other question is wheteher i should have completed prf? i did that cause the pot odds were so great, but when i think abt it now the only flops i should be happy with were two pairs or better since my stack was too short to be able to play any draws profitably. The cocnclusion is - i got lost :)

thanks for the feedback, good luck!


3 replies

Completing suited Aces for these odds is ok with me.

Your flop outs are considerable. Not only 9 outs for nut flush, but 1.5 for Ace high BD straight, 1.5 for five high BD straight, and 3 for overcard, giving 15 in total. Admittedly, definitely not all clean outs, but more than 50% improvement by the river on average.

So getting all your chips in on the flop is a good thing here. An alternative, if you believe someone will bet, is to check/shove AI, thereby increasing your winnings when you hit. Also, may give you some F/E, though not likely.


i like the c/r shove slightly better because you can still find some FE against a 1/2 pot cbet.

but i dont think there is much difference between just shoving or c/r.

i think folding to any action is a little weak, maybe against 3 aggressive actions behind i find a fold.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

I would just bet/call here. I think shoving is OK. I don't like check/raising so much because there is no guarantee soemone will bet, and a check around is the worst possible result for us.

If you do decide to go for a c/r, definitely don't fold after 3 all-ins! On this board, chances are we are dominating at least one of them with our draw :).