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[Closed] $1,15 DoN Quad Q vs. tight player

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JimmyBacardi
Joined: 04.04.2010

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB (t1767)
UTG (t1495)
UTG+1 (t1136)
Hero (t3065)
MP2 (t2120)
CO (t2082)
Button (t2030)
SB (t1305)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[:heart:], Q[:diamond:].
2 folds, Hero raises to t200, 4 folds, BB calls t150.

Flop: (t380) Q[:spade:], J[:spade:], Q[:club:] (2 players)
BB bets t50, Hero calls t50.

Turn: (t480) K[:spade:] (2 players)
BB bets t50, Hero calls t50.

River: (t580) 7[:diamond:] (2 players)
BB bets t50, Hero raises to t350, BB folds.

Final Pot: t980

He played very tight throughout the game. Any comments?


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bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008

The only hands that pay anything here are draws so i'm raising small on flop (200ish) to get value from them.

if not flop then as played 250ish on turn

To be honest there was probably nothing to get from him here anyway.


reraise 250 on the flop, if he didn't fold after that then just keep reraising his min bets. You really don't want to let people draw cheaply which is exactly what you do on the flop and turn. And when all the cards are out and there is no more way for him to suck out by seeing cheap cards that's when you finaly reraise and he folds it because he didn't complete his draw.

He could have had for example k-10 or a flush draw(on the turn it's obvious he didn't but he could have). There are plenty of fish at these limits that will pay you off and invest to much on weak draws. It's usualy not a good idea to slowplay unless your vs an agressive player and you have a really strong hand. playing straightforward works better from my experience

edit: i kinda forgot you had quads instead of trips (in which case he could have sucked out on you) while writing this. I pretty much never get them. But the same still really applies, you want to get the most value out of them as possible. And if you let them draw cheaply and they miss it, you won't get the most value out of it.


I don't like the call, call, raise. If he had the As, he'd probably call a small raise on the flop. I'd check the turn as if the completed draws had scared me, as to induce a bluff. The raise on the river basically reveals the strength of your hand, maybe not quads, but at least flush or full house. After the river min bet, villain is wishing for a cheap showdown. If he'd had a pocket pair, as 10's or 8's, his "full house draws" are over and you're not going to extract anymore from him.


i think you need to raise it up before the river to get max value from his draws that want to continue.

i think raising flop small would be the best way of doing this, so i raise flop to ~200.

obviously its really hard to get value when u have quads...


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